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Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by darkerside on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:52PM (#28507036)
I don't disagree with you, but your tone does smack of biting the hand that feeds.
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by pixl97 on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:44PM (#28507337)
I completely disagree with them. They seem to think hospitals operate like spinning up extra VMs when extra load is generated.

And, in particular areas where there is an outbreak it can work like that. Much like you can spin up another VM when you still have underlying resources to do, you can setup an emergency hospital when you can borrow resources from elsewhere.

When everywhere is busy, let's say a major pandemic outbreak, there is no extra capacity, and you tend to lose capacity by attrition of a worn out workforce.

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by darkerside on Sunday September 12, 2021 @11:14PM (#28507501)
I think it's fair to say that in the past year and a half, we had time to build capacity slowly and intelligently. OTOH, that's not any individual hospital's job. In our capitalistic society, if OP wanted to go build their own hospital, nobody was stopping them.
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by shapefrog on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:18AM (#28509011)
Change the config file for the hospital from 100 doctors to 200 doctors, and reload the config. You can spin up a new doctor in what 30 seconds? Totally how the world works from the armchair.

Not like it takes 6-7 years to get the basics down, weed out the ones who really are not as into it as they thought or just wont make it, or cant keep up. Not to mention the ones that want to go off and do tit jobs for a living rather than feeding experimental medcine to people who are about to die because they excercised their rights to refuse to take tested medcines.

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by darkerside on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:58AM (#28512305)
> I think it's fair to say that in the past year and a half, we had time to build capacity slowly and intelligently

> Change the config file for the hospital from 100 doctors to 200 doctors, and reload the config. You can spin up a new doctor in what 30 seconds?

...wtf?

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by shapefrog on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:41PM (#28515824)
tbh i am not shocked you cant figure it out.
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by nickthemagicman on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:11AM (#28508980)
They totally did though. Did you see all of the new stadiums and ships and warehouses and tents that were erected at the start of the pandemic ready to take the overflow?

None were utilized.

Can you point me to some ICU data that shows them filling up in the past year and a half?

NOT fear mongering media articles, but the actual data you're using?

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by pixl97 on Monday September 13, 2021 @11:00AM (#28512334)
Why not converse. Show the data that you're using.
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by nickthemagicman on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:23PM (#28519073)
You're claiming you can fly and asking me to prove that you can't fly? That's not how science works.

The burden of proof is on those who claim things are different than the norm.

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by pixl97 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:07AM (#28525985)
I mean my local hospitals have been publishing icu bed usage since near the beginning of the pandemic and during every surge they run low on icu beds with the majority of the beds used by covid patients.
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by nickthemagicman on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @08:30AM (#28538227)
Would love to see that posting
Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by native_samples on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:05AM (#28508952)
An odd analogy, given that hospital workers don't feed anyone - it's the rest of society that feeds them.

By point-blank refusing to even consider increasing capacity, despite being written blank cheques by military engineers and ventilator designers, and insisting instead on lockdowns, it is rather the other way around: society fed the healthcare managers who then turned around and bit that hand. Supermarket staff, truckers, farm workers, meat factory operators and so on cannot lock down or work from home, so they had to keep working throughout. Yet health managers just looked blankly at their shiny new emergency hospitals and acted baffled that they were expected to do things differently to normal. Nobody increased capacity to help ensure care for the essential workers. Eventually the quasi-religious approach to the health system will go away and people will start to wonder why exactly all those newly built beds had to be dismantled instead of being paired with an emergency training programme.

Re:I Got a 'Mild' Breakthrough Case by spookthesunset on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:57PM (#28507061)
I mean all this “protect the hospital” crap is bailing them out. Might as well be honest about it. People should be pissed that hospitals didn’t build capacity… why they aren’t, beats me.