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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by criticaltinker on Sunday September 12, 2021 @08:21PM (#28506496)
Can't be emphasized enough. Even if simplified down to three groups:

1) immunologically naive (never been exposed to SARS-CoV-2)

2) vaccinated

3) recovered from previous infection

Most discussions on HN completely miss the distinction between these groups. The truth is, so far scientific consensus indicates that groups 2 & 3 are at least equally well protected and pose equivalent risk to others.

Much of the bickering here conflates groups 1 & 3 - it's such a common mistake I've grown tired of trying to discuss it.

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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by moistly on Sunday September 12, 2021 @08:26PM (#28506533)
> The truth is, so far scientific consensus indicates that groups 2 & 3 are at least equally well protected and pose equivalent risk to others.

Which reduces the set to two: immunologically naïve, and primed for an immune response.

Or as we like to call it, unvaccinated and vaccinated.

Edit: vaccination via live virus is absurdly foolish.

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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by throwawaylinux on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:01PM (#28506734)
Aside from yourself, who is this "we" who likes to mislead in this way?
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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by moistly on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:04PM (#28506747)
It’s me and my worms, buddy. Royal worms.
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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by moistly on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:19PM (#28516325)
Live virus vaccination is (was) a thing. There is nothing unscientific about stating that there are only two classes of people: vaccinated against sars-cov-2 spike protein, and not vaccinated against the same.
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Re:Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch Delta, 11X more ... by dragonwriter on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:10AM (#28508975)
> The truth is, so far scientific consensus indicates that groups 2 & 3 are at least equally well protected and pose equivalent risk to others.

If they are, then the immunologically naive are even worse off than vaccinated/unvaccinated data suggests, making vaccination even more critical for anyone without a certainly-known prior infection.

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