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Re:Why Americans Die So Much More Than Europeans by Arnt on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:07PM (#28504946)
I quote at length: "Infants in the U.S. are considerably more likely to die in the poorest counties than in the richest counties, and this is true for both Black and white babies. Black teenagers in the poorest U.S. areas are roughly twice as likely to die before they turn 20, compared with those in the richest U.S. counties. In Europe, by contrast, the mortality rate for teenagers in the richest and poorest areas is exactly the same—12 deaths per 100,000. In America, the problem is not just that poverty is higher; it’s that the effect of poverty on longevity is greater too."

Are you suggesting that obesity makes a difference in the US but not in Europe? Or perhaps that obesity varies in the US but is uniform in Europe?

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Re:Why Americans Die So Much More Than Europeans by djokkataja on Sunday September 12, 2021 @07:21PM (#28506056)
Obesity rates are significantly higher in the United States than in Europe. https://ourworldindata.org/obesity#what-share-of-adults-are-...
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Re:Why Americans Die So Much More Than Europeans by Arnt on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:38AM (#28509108)
Yes, but if GP is right (and I understand correctly) then that should lead to a sloped graph for Europe and (significantly higher on the sheet) sheet another sloped graph for the US.

Whereas what the report finds is a flat line for Europe and a sloped graph (higher up) for the US.

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Re:Why Americans Die So Much More Than Europeans by bradknowles on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:32PM (#28507264)
The other factor in Europe is the healthcare system. They have universal healthcare, and we don’t.

So, if you don’t have insurance in the US and you’re in a poor neighborhood, then yes — you’re likely to have a lower standard of care.

But in Europe, everyone has state-provided insurance, and the quality of healthcare is much more consistent.

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Re:Why Americans Die So Much More Than Europeans by alkonaut on Monday September 13, 2021 @02:22PM (#28514865)
Most would agree that at least the richest in the US have better care than the lower percentile ms of Europeans. The outcomes according to the article suggests that even the richest don’t reach European longevity.

There could be multiple factors overlapping here though I suspect. For all but the richest, public healthcare helps, but for the richest the obesity gap closes any benefit in healthcare (diminishing returns in better care easily overshadowed by even slightly worse lifestyles).

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