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Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by spookthesunset on Sunday September 12, 2021 @01:44PM (#28503179)
Y'all had 1.6 years to do this. And no, the present ICU loads are not gonna be "the new normal".

Covid is here forever. We knew this way, way back in March of 2020. Only now are people finally getting the message. Life is short. We cannot play this game anymore. The time to go back to actual, 2019 pre pandemic normal is today.

Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by drewrv on Sunday September 12, 2021 @02:59PM (#28503795)
I take your argument as “covid will be around forever so we should act like it doesn’t exist” which is nonsensical to me. I’m not sure I can come up with a more charitable interpretation: sometimes things change and societies need to adapt.
Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by spookthesunset on Sunday September 12, 2021 @03:11PM (#28503923)
There is nothing unique or special about covid that requires society to adapt to some dystopian "new normal". There is nothing but fear that stops society from returning back to what life was like in 2019. Many places are completely over this already.
Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday September 12, 2021 @07:48PM (#28506251)
> Many places are completely over this already.

For example?

Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by dkdk8283 on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:59PM (#28507078)
Florida has been open for awhile and Gov DeSantis is actively fighting measures that would require vaccine passports etc.
Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:20PM (#28507201)
Florida ICUs are full, has a peak COVID death rate right now, and there isn't much end in sight.

https://www.local10.com/news/florida/2021/09/09/florida-adds...

How is that "a place where everything has returned to normal"? Ya, some people are ignoring COVID, but it isn't ignoring them.

Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by spookthesunset on Monday September 13, 2021 @01:27AM (#28508112)
If they don’t care, so what? What business of it is yours? Perhaps there is more to life than a myopic fixation on exactly one very specific illness.

By doing these mandates you are imposing your own values upon everybody else. For more than a year and a half! With no clear end goal! Indefinitely! Talk about selfish!

Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by Handytinge on Monday September 13, 2021 @06:11AM (#28509575)
Your response is irrelevant to the query of “which many places are completely over this already?”.

Naming an individual United states state which clearly isn’t over it as one of the “many places” doesn’t really provide an answer.

Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by spookthesunset on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:08PM (#28507135)
Drive 20 miles outside any blue city and nobody cares.
Re:England vaccine passport plans ditched, health secretary ... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:21PM (#28507209)
Rural areas have been particularly hit hard. Wyoming ICUs are full up, for example.

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/health/wyomings-cov...

It doesn't get any less blue than Wyoming (except for Jackson, but it isn't that big of a city).