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Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by gillesjacobs on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:58AM (#28501734)
"Physics-based" Deep Learning seems like a misnomer. From the abstract "Deep Learning Applications for Physics" sounds more apt. There definitely is value in transferring standard terminology and methods from physics to deep learning. But from the preview it's unclear if that is the focus.
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by omrjml on Sunday September 12, 2021 @04:09PM (#28504438)
This does not appear to be the usual approach of training the neural network on tons of data from the physics simulation. Instead they use the actual physics equations to form the loss function, which is a far more robust way of creating such an emulator. So physics based deep learning title is appropriate.
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by kkylin on Sunday September 12, 2021 @04:16PM (#28504484)
Indeed. I see where everyone on HN is coming from. But if you're a physicist, and you've come across a lot of "deep learning applied to physics but the model has no physics in it" (and there's plenty of that), then the title may make perfect sense.
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by lambdatronics on Monday September 13, 2021 @11:19AM (#28512585)
Yeah, many scientists in my field have been justifiably skeptical of black-box machine/deep learning applications -- just sounded like the latest meaningless buzzword. I think this approach potentially is a big deal.

[Edit: by "this approach" I mean what the article is calling "differentiable physics" -- but I don't love that moniker. The "physics informed neural network" approach doesn't seem that great to me. It's much slower than doing an actual simulation, the resulting errors are larger, and you can't re-use results -- it's a one-off solution. The fact that you can use it to interpolate isn't that much of a selling point. The only nice thing is that you can throw any system of equations you want at it without having to design a numerical solver.]

Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by jessriedel on Sunday September 12, 2021 @06:04PM (#28505465)
Eh, they may put more emphasis on that technique, but its only a subset of the scope:

> This document contains a practical and comprehensive introduction of everything related to deep learning in the context of physical simulations. ... Beyond standard supervised learning from data, we’ll look at physical loss constraints, more tightly coupled learning algorithms with differentiable simulations,...

Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by nerdponx on Sunday September 12, 2021 @11:40AM (#28502134)
I definitely thought it was the opposite from the title, applying physics concepts/techniques to general deep learning problems.
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by AbrahamParangi on Sunday September 12, 2021 @11:46AM (#28502195)
Indeed, “Deep Learning Based Physics” seems a little more correct.
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by amcoastal on Sunday September 12, 2021 @04:50PM (#28504785)
The common terminology is Physics Informed Neural Networks (PINNs)
Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by westurner on Monday September 13, 2021 @07:14AM (#28510010)
"Physics-informed neural networks" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics-informed_neural_networ...

But what about statistical thermodynamics and information theory? What about thin film?

What are some applications for PINNs and for {DL, RL,} in physics?

Re:Physics-Based Deep Learning Book by ngcc_hk on Sunday September 12, 2021 @09:24PM (#28506870)
The question of that is it target the network. But if it is for physics … should it be neural network using physics for physics (by physics scientist).