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Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by ghoward on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:30PM (#28495631)
Contagious? Yes. Deadly? Not really, especially for a novel virus.

That's the difference.

If we had a plague as bad as the Black Death, then yes, it would be deadly.

People will use the death numbers as counter-arguments, yet most deaths (94%-ish last I heard) are from people who had comorbidities, like obesity and such.

Until there is the same logic being applied to obese people as to the unvaccinated, as well as counting previous infections, especially for healthcare workers, I personally will not apply the same logic of smoking and drunk driving either.

Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by periphrasis on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:05PM (#28496004)
Obese people do not directly affect your health. I get that you’re trolling and don’t really believe what you say, but at least show some creativity here, rather than repeating nostrums that grew tired 250k dead ago.
Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by ghoward on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:18PM (#28496129)
You are right that obese people do not directly affect my health. Neither does my vaccination status directly affect yours because vaccinated people spread the virus too.

Obese people do affect my health if they take a hospital bed that I could have used when I need it. Isn't that one of the same arguments applied to the unvaccinated?

If we didn't have so many obese people, would the hospitals be overloaded? Would we have a shortage of healthcare workers?

I am repeating them because repeating works. See the Parable of the Widow and the Unjust Judge. It is also what the others are doing, by repeating the same "tired" lines over and over about how the unvaccinated are killing grandmas.

By the way, I'm not trolling. I'm serious. HN guidelines ask that you assume good faith.

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Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by ghoward on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:07PM (#28496512)
Nope, I'm not obese. I exercise everyday and eat right. I am a very bad competitor for it, especially since the survivability of COVID is so high. I may not even be eligible; I'd have to check.

I don't know what to tell you if I look like a good competitor to you.

Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by q1w2 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @10:11PM (#28498013)
> Deadly? Not really,

The Delta variant has a case fatality rate in the US of 0.1% for the general population, and 2% for those over 50.

That's not nothing. There are a LOT of people over 50 in a hospital.

Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by nradov on Saturday September 11, 2021 @10:56PM (#28498241)
Case fatality rates are meaningless because the majority of infections are never counted as official "cases". The CDC estimates the fatality rates at 0.6% for the general population. Vaccination cuts that fatality risk way down.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...

There is no reliable evidence of a higher IFR for the Delta variant.

Re:NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit ... by op00to on Monday September 13, 2021 @07:56AM (#28510350)
Now do people who live but whose bodies are destroyed by the virus.