Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers
by AlbertCory on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:49PM
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jerf's explanation makes sense. The negative certainly does not reinforce the positive.
Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers
by ggm on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:56PM
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Yes. They said it better. It certainly doesn't reinforce the positive, yet people seem to insist on using it as if it does. "Well, yes, that penny did land on it's edge but the exception proves the rule it had to be either heads or tails" type statements abound. No.. the exception proved pennies have three states not two: your argument is busted.
Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers
by heavenlyblue on Friday September 10, 2021 @08:36PM
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Exception proves the rule comes from Roman law: if there is a sign saying you can’t park here on Saturdays, it means that you can park here on any other day.
Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers
by ggm on Friday September 10, 2021 @09:12PM
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I was taught it comes from logic, and argumentation: the act of stating an exception proves a rule as stated (a rule is a claim to an axiom) is wrong. So it's in logic and philosophy, not Roman law.
Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers
by Retric on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:39AM
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If you’re reading a guide book and it specifically says: “Use spell X to ability kill this boss” the implication is you can’t instantly kill other bosses by using ability X.
Logically the statement says nothing beyond what it says, but implicitly by providing the exception you’re stating that the general rule is different.
It’s a perfectly rational linguistic argument, though often misused outside of that context.
Some how it's morphed to colloquially mean "yes, that one exception aside, I'm right and you're wrong" as if the negative somehow reinforces the positive..
The phrase "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" helps understand this. The pudding may prove to be bad or good. Find which proof by eating it.