Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers

Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers by pembrook on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:28PM (#28487610)

That's ironic then, because a huge percentage of the full-time employees at FAANG are actually former contractors who've been converted. So that would suggest a large chunk of their full-time employees are sub-par.

And that still doesn't answer the question--why hire anybody directly at all?

If you're so much better than the other contractors, they could just pay you higher rates. It'd be the same thing.

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Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers by ffggvv on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:31PM (#28487635)

"huge percentage".. got any numbers to back that up? i can tell you its a single digit percent at G.

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Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers by com2kid on Saturday September 11, 2021 @12:09AM (#28489362)

I've been on high performing teams at MSFT where it was over 70%.

You basically get to pick and choose who to hire after a year of seeing their code. Bonus if you pay contractors really high rates to attract good talent.

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Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers by joshuamorton on Friday September 10, 2021 @08:19PM (#28488311)

It depends heavily on the role. For SWE and SRE you're probably correct, but for a number of UX engineering roles, temp-to-hire is weirdly common.

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Re:Google illegally underpaid thousands of workers by ak217 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @02:26AM (#28489820)

I am familiar with this process at most of the companies in question. No, it is not a huge percentage; to the contrary, it's very difficult for contractors to become full-time employees.

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