And yet they can have enough of a viral load to pass it along to any non-healthy people they come in contact with. Which is why this NOT a personal health issue, it's a public health issue.

As I have explained to several of my children's young friends "you are correct, COVID will probably not make you sick, but how will you feel when you find out you killed your grandmother by giving it to her".

As others have mentioned here you pass it along vaccinated or not.

You can also have the vulnerable population take precautions, not the young population. To be frank what kind of sick society pushes the young population to take on risk (novel vaccine incomplete clinical trials, rare heart inflammation issues documented, spike protein membrane break off issue, etc) to protect the elderly population? This is the first time societies have ever called for risking the youth for the elderly and it's not morally right.

And as other others have pointed it out, you're much less likely to pass it along, get sick, be hospitalized if you have had the vaccination.

And you're comparing a very small risk for the youth (getting a vaccine) versus a very large risk for the elderly.

They're your grandparents though, so I guess that's your decision.

Instead of emotionally reducing it to "don't kill grandma" you could join a reasonable discourse on the topic and look at other factors like...

The at-risk can get vaccinated - healthy youth don't get hospitalized - there are antibody and drug therapeutics available - youth don't need to risk novel vaccine adverse affects (they are documented - they are more prevalent in young than old) - you still spread it equally significantly vaccinated or not - the vaccine does not give robust coverage against new strains - natural immunity gives far more robust coverage against new strains than the vaccine (almost suggesting exposure for the low-risk is a better societal outcome).

Hand waving "all youth must get vaccinated" is not a rational course of action.

At this point, anyone who cares to know the facts already know them. The only arguments that will convince the hold outs are pathos.

It's your grandmother. You can choose how to treat her.

Also, the immunization provides more robust immunity than having had Covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-pr...

The evidence suggest the exact opposite of you are saying.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scitranslmed.abi9915

The GP you are replying to provided a citation for their claim. Please provide one for your claim as well.

You are not alone my friend.

Resisting this surge of authoritarianism is going to take more than just the unvaccinated standing up for each other. We need the vaccinated to say no and to refuse to comply with any orders for certificates or to pay fines.

You know, “resist” – wasn’t that the recent call-to-arms that got the orange fascist out of office?

Fwiw I know an overweight alcoholic 65 yo woman, cancer survivor, diabetic and has cardiac problems (she had to be in a wheelchair for a couple years). Oh and she's a chain smoker too.

She's the perfect COVID victim. She got it twice, even though it was quite bad never had to be hospitalized and her health is now not worse than before.