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Re:Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers by wsc981 on Friday September 10, 2021 @05:26AM (#28479342)
> For example, if someone refuses a vaccine, should an emergency room be free to refuse care? Currently, they can not due to EMTALA.

Should not refuse care. A lot of people have unhealthy lifestyles (eating lots of processed foods, sugary soda drinks, don’t exercise, smoke, …). We also don’t refuse healthcare to these people even if they make poor life choices.

Since many people on this site live and work in the USA, I would guess more likely than not plenty of people are obese here. You don’t magically become obese. Yet you deserve healthcare, since you pay taxes, pay for a health insurance, etc…

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Re:Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers by Ekaros on Friday September 10, 2021 @05:30AM (#28479360)
Also that leads to questions like should we refuse care for healthy but dangerous activities like swimming and drowning. Or breaking a leg or arm during sports? Or concussions? These clearly could have been avoided by choosing safer options or ways. Thus should be refused care?
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Re:Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers by ModernMech on Friday September 10, 2021 @07:39AM (#28480123)
When the ICU is past capacity, these questions must be asked regardless. Who gets treated first and why? Unvaccinated covid patients are the ones pushing ICUs past capacity, not drivers or swimmers or soccer players or obese people. This is not a hypothetical thought experiment. Doctors are having to make these decisions right now.
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Re:Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers by wsc981 on Friday September 10, 2021 @02:55PM (#28485681)
Actually most people with COVID needing extra healthcare are obese: https://www.radboudumc.nl/en/news-items/2021/patients-who-ar...

Also from March 2020: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/coronavirus-death-toll...

> Meanwhile, Diederik Gommers, chairman of the Dutch intensive care association, told television talk show Jinek on Friday evening that 66% to 80% of corona patients on intensive care wards that he had seen are overweight.

> A specialist on the programme gave a similar picture. ‘Almost all the patients on an IC ward are overweight,’ Peter van der Voort of Groningen University’s teaching hospital said.

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