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Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by entropyie on Thursday September 09, 2021 @09:51AM (#28469678)
> However the main problem is still consumer knowledge of whats recyclable.

Strongly disagree here. Expecting average consumers to know the difference between polypropylene, polyurethane and polystyrene etc..., just by looking at something, is beyond the pale. That doesn't even take into account bonded materials, like paper coffee cups lined with plastic.

The "main problem" is manufacturers / supermarkets using any kind of packaging that is not recyclable by default, and vague / ever shifting standards from one private waste company to the next on what can be recycled.

There should be a massive tax on using non-recyclable materials for ordinary packaging, and it should have a mandatory skull & crossbones style symbol to show that it is hazardous to the environment.

On a positive note, Ireland just pushed through legislation to accept all kinds of plastic in recycling bins this week: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/household-recycl...

Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by detritus on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:01AM (#28469773)
I strongly feel that governments should intervene and mandate a limited subset of plastics - including colouration - that can be used for food and beverage packaging, etc.

My bottle of sparkling water doesn't really need a green top. The bottle itself doesn't really need to be a light colour tint.

Put branding on paper labels, or better yet - go monochrome and laser-etch/mark everything. Have QR codes on bottles that can have fancy interactive digital marketing/advertising/information.

Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by asiachick on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:59AM (#28470417)
That would make it so no one can introduce a better plastic
Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by u801e on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:02AM (#28470453)
Pharmaceutical companies still introduce new medications. They just need to submit documents/applications to the relevant government authorities. The same could be done with packaging when trying to introduce a new type.
Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by asiachick on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:36AM (#28470856)
great, super easy for regulatory capture. Just bribe the inspector to not approve your competitors.
Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by uuddlrlr on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:15AM (#28469927)
I'd rather not be a scan+network request away from knowing which flavour of drink I'm holding.
Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by detritus on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:21AM (#28469981)
The QR code would just facilitate all the fancy branding shite beloved of marketing departments. Obviously you'd still have all the essential details marked on the product directly.
Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by atatatat on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:24AM (#28470013)
Lasers can be used to put words into your ears, read your heartrate and listen to your conversations from miles out...

and you're concerned about people knowing your favorite sugar?

Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by dec0dedab0de on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:35AM (#28470142)
The "main problem" is manufacturers / supermarkets using any kind of packaging that is not recyclable by default

Packaging should be biodegradable by default. Assume that it's going to end up in the ocean, or the woods next to the highway, and we don't want it to be there in 1000 years.

Re:California aims to ban recycling symbols on things that a... by dheera on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:22AM (#28470690)
> Consumer knowledge of what's recyclable

There's also a huge disconnect between what's actually recyclable across California cities, unfortunately.

As far as I know San Francisco recycles clean plastic food containers, plastic cups, plastic plates, and utensils [0], but backwards Mountain View specifically does NOT recycle utensils [1], black-colored containers [2], and fruit containers [2].

[0] https://www.recology.com/recology-san-francisco/your-three-c...

[1] https://www.mountainview.gov/depts/pw/recycling_and_zero_was...

[2] https://www.mountainview.gov/depts/pw/recycling_and_zero_was...