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Re:John Carmack on Hiring by aynyc on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:16PM (#28448690)
When I was interviewing for a job, I complain about potential employers with their craziness.

When I was interviewing to fill a job, I complain about potential employees with their craziness.

Edit: I don't have a solution. I have all but given on the traditional method of applying for jobs via websites. Fortunately, I have enough network to help with my referrals and recruiters have been calling.

Re:John Carmack on Hiring by wayoutthere on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:39PM (#28448936)
I too have found applying for jobs via web sites to be a complete waste of time. Every job I’ve gotten in the past 20 years was either through a personal contact or a recruiter who reached out and contacted me based on my LinkedIn.
Re:John Carmack on Hiring by sharken on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:48PM (#28449023)
My experience exactly, it was only after actually calling a company about a job that everything clicked.

Sending an application using a recruitment website is like buying a lottery ticket with the same poor chance of winning.

And the easiest way to get a job offer is to know someone within the company that can recommend you.

Re:John Carmack on Hiring by wayoutthere on Thursday September 09, 2021 @09:53AM (#28469695)
Yeah I’ve never seen an employee recommendation not lead to at least an interview. This is one of the biggest lasting benefits of my MBA — if I’m ever out of a job, I can just find a company I want to work for and I probably know someone relatively influential there. It’s sort of a professional courtesy to recommend business school classmates even decades afterwards. These network effects are also why there’s often a bimodal distribution in outcomes between “top” schools and the rest of the pack.
Re:John Carmack on Hiring by briffle on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:20PM (#28448732)
I've been on both, but I also realize companies putting out a list of almost silly requirements that just about no person ever could meet has made many people 'stretch' their qualifcations too..

I have programmed against and Oracle DB becomes Oracle DBA experience, etc. Because when you do want an actual DBA that has a bit of programming background, you get so many applications for the first type.

Additionally, things like a Linux Systems Administrator can come in many different strenghts, and your going to attract a different level of skill by posting your salary range as 60-80k, than if you post 120-140k. But many employers don't want to post it at all, and then it seems you only get the low end guys applying.

Re:John Carmack on Hiring by artful-hacker on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:24PM (#28448774)
One of the few actually useful functions recruiting companies can do is get the job salary range in agreement with the candidates desires before wasting anybody's time.