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Re:A generation of American men give up on college by zepto on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:24PM (#28448088)
> the silent majority of progressives

Really, from what I can see all of current progressivism is compatible with his approach.

The silent majority of people who would have called themselves progressives a decade ago are silent because they are silenced and called racists or just right-wing if they question the new orthodoxy.

Ergo, the people you are referring to as a silent majority are no longer included as progressives.

Re:A generation of American men give up on college by refenestrator on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:35PM (#28448247)
If all of my policy preferences code as progressive but I think Kendi and the white fragility lady are jackasses, what does that make me then under your definition?
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by nemo44x on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:49PM (#28448412)
Charitably, cognitively dissonant and more harshly, a useful idiot some would say. I’d assume an egalitarian person who means well and has started to become suspicious of the more illiberal aspects of progressive motivations.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by refenestrator on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:45PM (#28448980)
Wow. So, what, I have to vote Trump now? That won't be happening but always interesting to hear different perspectives.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by zepto on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:19PM (#28449373)
> So, what, I have to vote Trump now?

Why is that the implied option?

Re:A generation of American men give up on college by harimau777 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:35PM (#28449606)
Americans live in a two party system. The only realistic alternative to the Democrats, who are associated with progressives, are the Republicans.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by zepto on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:52PM (#28449784)
Even if you believe that a two party system is the only possibility, you can do many things that don’t involve voting for Trump.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by refenestrator on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:25PM (#28449460)
The 'useful idiot' part that I replied to.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by nemo44x on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @05:42PM (#28450316)
“Useful idiot” is a term coined back in the day to describe people who unwittingly spread the propaganda of communists without really understanding the ultimate goals. In this case being a progressive while disagreeing with the leading ideas of the movement.

And no it doesn’t mean a vote for Trump. It means not supporting candidates that parrot this type of rhetoric and to not support causes/movements that are a part of it. FWIW Trump did ban critical race theory from being brought into federal offices and Biden quickly reinstated it under the guise of “learning to be nice to each other” - which it isn’t. Biden, in this case, I believe is a useful idiot for propagating their propaganda, mistaking it for harmless “diversity training”. There’s a big difference!

Re:A generation of American men give up on college by refenestrator on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @07:05PM (#28450945)
Worth reflecting on how the John Birch Society looks in retrospect, now that you mention it.

Prophets, or paranoid fools? Are we looking back and saying, gosh, we should have listened to them, that damn Jane Fonda ruined America.

Re:A generation of American men give up on college by odessacubbage on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @08:13PM (#28451390)
according to kendi's framework, you would be a racist.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by zepto on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:59PM (#28448523)
Someone who is looking for another group. Kendi and DiAngelo’s ideas are what progressives are actually enacting.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by harimau777 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:30PM (#28448831)
I think that the issue goes both ways. Modern conservatives have adopted a strategy of ignoring or exploiting discrimination and inequality. So if someone cares about addressing those issues, then the current progressives are the only game in town.
Re:A generation of American men give up on college by zepto on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:01PM (#28451718)
> So if someone cares about addressing those issues, then the current progressives are the only game in town.

If you believe in the approach of Kendi and DiAngelo, they are the only game in town.

If you believe Kendi and DiAngelo’s approach is counterproductive then supporting modern progressives is acting against the very issues you care about.

You don’t have to make a choice of which foot to shoot yourself in. You can simply not fire.

There are plenty of more moderate political voices, even within the parties. You can support them and you can denounce the groups whose policies you dislike.

Modern progressives are only in the ‘game’ because people support them. If you don’t like what they represent, you can stop.

Re:A generation of American men give up on college by DenisM on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @10:39PM (#28452401)
> Modern conservatives have adopted a strategy of ignoring or exploiting discrimination and inequality

Are you saying that conservatives today are more likely to engage in "exploiting discrimination and inequality" than conservatives yesterday? Or what did you mean by "modern"?