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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by cloudfifty on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:18AM (#28444422)
> it's a deluded fantasy which 100 years of disastrous policy catastrophes have disproved

It's disrespectful to throw Chomsky in together with something that he's spent his entire life to very prolifically oppose, namely authoritarianism.

Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by dash2 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @08:49AM (#28456241)
He opposes it when it turns up. But for example, he was frightfully keen on Venezuela's "21st century socialism" until it predictably, and predictedly, became yet another authoritarian failure:

https://iea.org.uk/but-that-wasnt-real-socialism-part-3-vene...

Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by cloudfifty on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:58AM (#28458964)
What a ridiculously biased Fox News level link. Clearly no room for a fruitful discussion here.
Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by dash2 on Thursday September 09, 2021 @05:04AM (#28467758)
Do you think they invented his quotes? There's usually room for a fruitful discussion if you want one.
Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by cloudfifty on Thursday September 09, 2021 @07:06AM (#28468409)
> Do you think they invented his quotes? There's usually room for a fruitful discussion if you want one.

No. But do I think that their "interpretation" is even close to charitable and that there's a even faintest chance that we'll get somewhere from that starting point? No, not a chance.

The author is of course the author of some "abolish the NHS book/report" as well. Do you honestly believe that this sort of such stuff is represented by anything other than monied interests?

Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by dash2 on Friday September 10, 2021 @11:49AM (#28483217)
But then you agree with me that Chomsky said:

"[W]hat’s so exciting about at last visiting Venezuela is that I can see how a better world is being created […] The transformations that Venezuela is making toward the creation of another socio-economic model could have a global impact."

That seems to prove my point, irrespective of whether the IEA is a right-wing thinktank (yes, it is).