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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by concordDance on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:24AM (#28442366)
"Leftists" don't think the correlations between results in IQ tests and many other things (such as memory, income and reflexes) exist?
Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by myWindoonn on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:28AM (#28444552)
Correlation doesn't always imply causation, right? For example, there's a correlation between IQ and income. There are several causative possibilities:

* IQ causes income

* Income causes IQ

* Some unknown thing causes both income and IQ

* The correlation is spurious; IQ and income are unrelated

Evidence strongly suggests that the third bullet point is true; socioeconomic class causes both income and IQ. Richer people living in nicer neighborhoods both have better opportunities for income, and also better opportunities for education; education causes IQ. This is why redlining is brought up so often as a root cause of so many of the disparities in quality of life; redlining deepened socioeconomic divides.

Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by concordDance on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @11:25AM (#28445982)
Haven't there been studies untangling causation here? Using random events that hit socioeconomic class as a natural experiment?

Adoption studies might also be informative.