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Re:US Cybercom says mass exploitation of Atlassian Confluenc... by HillRat on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:53PM (#28438516)
Spolsky’s FogBugz is still out there after a few ownership changes, and is still a hell of a lot less painful to use than Jira.
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Re:US Cybercom says mass exploitation of Atlassian Confluenc... by dwd on Monday September 06, 2021 @08:11PM (#28439478)
It was innovative 13 years ago, but never really caught on.

Kiln was also a great product and allowed for using both Git and Mercurial. It was way better than anything else at the time, but lost out to Github.

I always liked Spolsky's Evidence Based Scheduling that was built into the products.

https://fogbugz.com/evidence-based-scheduling/

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Re:US Cybercom says mass exploitation of Atlassian Confluenc... by jlarocco on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @12:58AM (#28441089)
> Kiln was also a great product and allowed for using both Git and Mercurial. It was way better than anything else at the time, but lost out to Github.

I used both FogBugz and Kiln at a previous employer, and I really liked FogBugz, but we had nothing but problems with Kiln. We had a fairly large team (maybe 75-100 people) and a good sized project (maybe 300k lines), and it was painfully slow to do anything in Kiln and it was down/broken at least once a month. It wasn't so bad early on when we were small, but it didn't scale with us very well.

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Re:US Cybercom says mass exploitation of Atlassian Confluenc... by knightofmars on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:07PM (#28451761)
No. It isn't. Having recently moved (a year ago) from FogBugz to Jira it's like a fresh breeze has blown into our case management process.
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