News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by istingray on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:55PM (#28435632)
I wonder if the future of a company like Protonmail is that it has to be open source. Almost like simply an API, no privacy statement, no marketing, just a smart contract. More like UniSwap.
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by ta988 on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:28PM (#28435957)
How do you do emails on a blockchain? Is that another of those scenarios where "it will work when everybody will switch to the chain" ?
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by wallacoloo on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:00PM (#28436307)
The naive way would just be to send a transaction to the recipient’s wallet address (or more practically, their ENS name) where the transaction payload is an encrypted text message.

As you point out, that requires both parties be on the blockchain. If you want to send/receive off-chain, you would probably just set up a trusted relay. e.g. send an ethereum tx to emailrelay.eth and it would forward it over the SMTP system. Send an email from a SMTP client to [email protected] and it’ll do the reverse. This implementation would have the relay see all your plaintext messages. Not much different from how centralized email services like gmail operate, in practice.

There’s nothing that makes any of this technically infeasible to a knowledgeable dev today — maybe it even already exists (ethmail.cc shows there’s at least interest in it). Transaction fees kill this from a practicality point of view. Probably you want to roll this out on a layer 2 network, and those are still pretty new things.

Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by plafl on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:42PM (#28437867)
> Transaction fees kill this from a practicality point

That depends on the amount. If it's small it could be a feature.

Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by randomswede on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @08:31AM (#28443886)
Submit encrypted message to sufficiently large and stable data processor (bitcoin blockchain, hackernews, reddit, ...).

Provide pointer to message via side channel to recipient.

Done.

Now, that has OTHEHR problems. So, as anything but a napkin sketch, don't take it too seriously.

Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by istingray on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:29PM (#28436549)
Oh neat wasn't aware of ethmail.cc will check it out
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by atoav on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:49PM (#28436187)
Who pays the servers then?
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by istingray on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:58PM (#28436286)
The users. Who else?
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by aembleton on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:45PM (#28437896)
An intelligence agency such as the CIA
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by atoav on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:39AM (#28442054)
Okay so whom are they paying?
Re:Clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist by istingray on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @11:10AM (#28445820)
In the decentralized scenario, the users are paying the underlying system as well as the particular itself. Check out Uniswap as an example. Users pay ether to run a process, and pay Uniswap a fee for the protocol.