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Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by shkkmo on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:17AM (#28434511)
There was no probable cause to search the car, so possibly. It is possible that the police would have used their drug dog to manufacture probable cause anyway.

I suspect there are some missing details. Why was the original stopping officer following him for so long looking for an excuse to pull him over?

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by ng12 on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:25AM (#28434595)
They need probable cause to bring in a dog. He should have refused to allow them to search his vehicle or answer any of their questions.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by tyingq on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:40AM (#28434773)
>They need probable cause to bring in a dog.

Cops have lots of practice with the rights words to say about the person's driving, behavior, appearance, and so on. Or the right things to see. Like a ziploc bag, even if there's sandwich crumbs in it. Or ashes, "residue" (i.e. brown spots on anything), etc. Or constricted pupils, even though it's sunny outside and therefore expected.

My favorite one I saw was Krispy Kreme leftovers being "meth". https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669...

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by jasonladuke0311 on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:07PM (#28435097)
Yep. I had a cop tell me he would use anything hanging from a rearview mirror as a pretense for a traffic stop.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by atatatat on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:22AM (#28444471)
(That is to say: hanging things from the rearview, legally speaking, is against law in many jurisdictions — and distracting, for many humans!)
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by atatatat on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:22AM (#28444463)
Know the law if you want to avoid being harassed by bad factions of it.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by spaced-out on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:15PM (#28435188)
Technically, they only need probable cause if they don't have the dogs with them.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-police-use-dogs-...

He still should not have cooperated, of course. Any extra effort you force the cops to go through gives you some protection.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by shkkmo on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:34AM (#28434716)
> They need probable cause to bring in a dog.

AFAIK this is only true in a very limited set of local jurisdictions.

The use of drug dogs to manufacture probable cause is pretty well documented.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by gpm on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:28PM (#28435325)
My understanding of US law (which could be wrong) is that they need probable cause everywhere in the US if it's going to extend the duration of the stop.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by thatcat on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:32PM (#28437743)
You have to explicitly ask to leave, and they'll ask you to get out of the car anyway as soon as you say you don't consent to a search. Depending on how long it takes the dogs to arrive you could argue about it in court, but good luck.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by bink on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:57PM (#28436274)
"I smelled marijuana".
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by gnopgnip on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:14PM (#28435839)
In many rural areas the police harrassing out of towners is normal