Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019)
by runarberg on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:22AM
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But an ever growing population isn’t getting shelter (or very poor shelter), and as the climate crisis gets worse (and the wars of the world worsen) I would expect that on the global scale an ever growing population would also go hungry. These people will start migrating to the places that don’t have famines and wars. And if the current border policies persist, these people won’t be welcomed by the government. This means that you will have people rebelling against a government which is denying them food and shelter.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019)
by esarbe on Monday September 06, 2021 @08:31AM
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Absolutely. People always forget how population migrations can bring down empires.
What do you expect these climate refugees to do? Die quietly? "Well, we earned it, not being born into wealthy societies. We've got no one else to blame but us"?
Get real. There will be strive and conflict and war, and everyone (lookin' at you, China, USA and Russia) will still be playing the 'Great Game' and try to one-up the other ones, even though survival is at stake.
This is an absolutely moronic premise to start with. The portion doesn’t matter as long as the purchasing power stays static or is increasing.
The population doesn’t collapse when people are still getting abundant food, shelter, etc regardless of how well the rich are doing. The focus on the income of the rich instead of poverty is a distraction to pull people into a power struggle they otherwise wouldn’t care about.
It’s better to have obscenely wealthy + a high earning middle class than poverty across the board. However, the reframing of everything into income inequality makes the latter sound somehow better.