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Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by runarberg on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:55AM (#28430417)
> If one has to have either a civil war or a world war (bizarre choice), a world war would actually serve to unite us,

This is not only a terrible American exceptionalism thing to say, but also probably wrong if you look at history of failing states. The Russian emipre was it the brink of collapse before WW1, participation in that war lead to its collapse sooner then it probably would have.

From an outside view much of the world is long since tired of American exceptionalism, and American influence on the rest of the world. For many people the collapse of America would be a preferable option over the status quo. Me personally would prefer no war at all (neither civil nor world). However I would love to see American influence dwindle in favor of a more global solidarity of the workers of the world (including American workers).

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by xsquared2 on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:28AM (#28430617)
> However I would love to see American influence dwindle in favor of a more global solidarity of the workers of the world (including American workers).

Pardon my assumption, but are you a software engineer in america? How would the downfall of American hegemony and union of transnational labor favor you?

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by robotresearcher on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:24AM (#28431309)
Just maybe they aren't thinking primarily of their own advantage.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by runarberg on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:39AM (#28430688)
Yes I am a software engineer in America (although from Europe originally). And to answer your other question, the downfall of America might favor me personally if it would be replaced with international solidarity of workers (as I am a worker my self). However my personal wealth is not my aspiration. Or as Mr. Spock once said: “The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few”. If I am one of the few, who’s benefits will marginally decrease in order for the needs of the many to be met. Then so be it.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by voidfunc on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:22AM (#28430987)
Alright there Comrade... lets hope your vision for the future never becomes a reality.

Here's the real rub, there's many of us who would also fight to preserve the status quo or something close to it. You think many (most?) HN'ers with their 150K+ jobs want to live either individually or with their families at a much worse quality of life so some folks an ocean or two away can be a little better off? Big doubt.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by doubletgl on Monday September 06, 2021 @09:09AM (#28433299)
The status quo, globally, is inequality and suffering for many. What a pathetic way of thinking that this must be defended with violence. It's unthinkable for you that this could be balanced out a bit more?