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Re:Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his I... by caeril on Sunday September 05, 2021 @05:53PM (#28428175)
...but we know it's possible under Swiss law, from this case, for them to be compelled to start logging specific account accesses, that they by default were not previously.

How is that any different from them being compelled to disable or weaken clientside encryption?

In both cases they're being compelled to make changes to their service.

The camel's nose is clearly already under the tent. Everybody needs to start diffing javascript served by them.

Re:Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his I... by dane-pgp on Sunday September 05, 2021 @07:17PM (#28428681)
> Everybody needs to start diffing javascript served by them.

It would be nice if there were something like Perspectives[0] or Binary Transparency / Sigstore[1] to raise the alarm when something like this happened, but the threat would also be avoided if ProtonMail was available as a SecureBookmark[2].

[0] https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/data-center/ssl-tls-certif...

[1] https://security.googleblog.com/2021/03/introducing-sigstore...

[2] https://coins.github.io/secure-bookmark/

Re:Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his I... by feu on Sunday September 05, 2021 @06:49PM (#28428512)
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Re:Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his I... by pessimizer on Sunday September 05, 2021 @07:08PM (#28428624)
That's not the claim. The claim is that we don't know if X is possible under Swiss law. You seem to be the one claiming that because they said it's not possible, then it's not possible. If not, I don't know what you're claiming.

The GP says that it's possible under German law. Is it "FUD" to say that it could end up being possible under Swiss law?

Shouldn't there be fear, uncertainty, and doubt about any channel that activists use to communicate with each other?