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Re:Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighb... by traceroute66 on Sunday September 05, 2021 @06:37AM (#28423128)
> spending time in South Kensington - walking back to hotel at night, only about 30% of houses had any lights on.

South Kensington is a bit of a curiosity.

It is predominantly bordered by Chelsea and Knightsbridge.

Chelsea is Russian country, if you are a wealthy Russian, Chelsea is the place to be. Unless you are a Russian oligarch, in which case there are one or two spots a bit further away where you can splash super serious cash on rarer properties.

Knightsbridge is wealthy Arab country, when it gets too hot in the Middle East summer, they flock to Knightsbridge with their imported Ferraris to stay in their London houses.

But South Kensington is a bit different. Its not attractive to the Russians or Arabs. Not many of the properties there remain single occupant, they've been mostly subdivided in to individual flats or re-purposed for office (or educational use ... there are lots of cram-schools, colleges and nurseries round there).

Re:Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighb... by yawaworht1978 on Sunday September 05, 2021 @08:20AM (#28423772)
What about Notting hill, a bedsit can go for 2000 quid per week there, it's in Kensington. Average London rent prices are 1600 quid, that is before council tax, internet and the dreaded tv licence. A more granular overview is Location Studio One bedroom Kensington and Chelsea £1,427 £2,062 Islington £1,383 £1,565 Tower Hamlets £1,398 £1,547 Westminster £1,371 £2,113 Lambeth £1,240 £1,595

One bedroom is not sufficient to raise a family, I think that's safe to say.

So let's move on to the 2 and 3 bedroom properties

Location Ttwo br 3Wbr swestmisnster£ 2,920 £4,152 Camden £ 2,254 £2,880 Kensingtonelsea £3,030 £4,938 Islington £1,934 £2,487

Hammersmith a 1,922 £2,653

Sorry for the formatting.

Cheapest

BBexley£. 1,105 £1,281 Havering £1,120 £1,384 Redbridge £1,293 £1,589 Sutton £ 1,163 £1,498 Waltham Forest £1,364 £1,649

These are before council tax and other costs, which are gonna be laughed at by oligarchs but they do count for normal people.

The new houses nnextto Westfield shopping centre cost around 2000 quid before council tax , zone 3 classic houses with a garden go for 1500 before council tax. its really bad in all London, unless you make 50k after taxes and most devs don't make that money there. t

Re:Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighb... by traceroute66 on Sunday September 05, 2021 @09:20AM (#28424154)
> its really bad in all London

I don't disagree with you there.

Aside from the Chelsea and Knightsbridge style stories, overall London suffers from a problem of (a) too much buy-to-let nonsense going on (b) off-plan new-build developments which are sold off-plan predominantly to offshore buyers (mostly Chinese using it as a way to get chunks of money out of China, but also other nationalities too). All those new-builds South of the River for example, almost exclusively off-plan jobs.

The present government is not helping either. They are unashamedly on the side of the property developers out there to make a quick buck, not Londoners.

I absolutely do feel for those on low / minimum wage in London who are pushed out of the market and having to face horrible commutes to be able to live somewhere remotely affordable.

Re:Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighb... by OJFord on Sunday September 05, 2021 @08:04AM (#28423672)
Yeah a lot are not residential, a lot of those that are are subdivided into flats, and a chunk of those that remain may just not be occupied outside term time or during a pandemic.

But mostly it's that they're not residential to begin with. Many more are linked to an embassy, restaurants, clubs, nurseries, storage, etc. than you'd realise from 'walking back to hotel at night'.