Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by wolfram74 on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:30AM
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As someone with moderate keratoconus[0] and a belling reflex[1] that makes the opthamologist go fetch the residents because they need to see it, I am always looking forward to developments that might let me get new dang eyes, or at least replace my corneas.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by lmilcin on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:28PM
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This is not at all about opthamologists.
Ability to grow any organ from stem cells, let alone as complex as an eye, is breathtaking development that up until now was basically Sci-Fi.
I don't have a lot of knowledge in the field, but I believe that once we learn how to grow one organ there isn't a lot than more hard work to learn how to grow other organs.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by hellbannedguy on Saturday September 04, 2021 @11:22PM
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I wonder if we will see the day where stem cells are collected at birth, and saved.
A woman has the baby, and the umbilical stem cells are collected, and put in a deep freeze. Instead of circumsision, that doctor would be more concerned about saving the stem cells?
Who knows what medical breakthroughs will come?
(I don't know much about stem cells, other than the political stuff associated woth them.)
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by vharuck on Saturday September 04, 2021 @11:45PM
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This is done today by stem cell banks. They're typically used for treatment of diseases like leukemia. Public stem cell banks work similarly to blood banks, and there are private banks where your stem cells are saved for your family. Private banks are, in general, much more expensive.
From what I understand, though, stem cells don't last longer than a few years in storage. Making private banks a less useful.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by manmal on Sunday September 05, 2021 @03:15AM
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Doesn’t fat tissue contain enough stem cells to go around? I also don’t know much on that issue, but have seen that there are stem cell treatments that are based on a small liposuction.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by epmaybe on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:46AM
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I’m sure you’ve seen a large volume of research involving cross linking and such related to keratoconus. It’s my hope that in the future we find patients like yourself well before they have progressed to later stages and have therapies affordable enough to prevent further progression.
Edit: I forgot to mention but newer techniques for corneal transplant are within reach, and current techniques in the right hands are very successful at giving usable vision.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by staticassertion on Sunday September 05, 2021 @03:00AM
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BTW, also have keratoconus, if you haven't had crosslinking done yet I recommend it. It's FDA approved now (I had it before it was, which is why I mention it) and seems to be more widespread these days but I've met others who have keratoconus who are unaware of the procedures available. I haven't had degradation since the procedure nearly a decade ago.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by andy_ppp on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:29AM
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How far are we off being able to regrow broken organs in humans? To be honest I guess doing Eye transplants is beyond our current ability even if we could grow them, but new hearts livers and kidneys could be very useful.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by epmaybe on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:49AM
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I’d imagine the limiting factor in all of these is still functionality of these organs. We can reorganize them to look somewhat like the actual organ (like in the linked article), but whether or not the organ functions the same is still under much investigation.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by phendrenad2 on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:19PM
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Also how do you connect up the nerves? A heart transplant works because the heart is basically self-regulating. But the eye needs thousands of nerves to connect to the brain to be useful.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by andy_ppp on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @04:22AM
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This is weird because the vagus nerve and breathing rate can both slow/speed up the heart. What about when doing exercise, how is the signal sent to the heart to say speed up?
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by TaupeRanger on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:01PM
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Cutting edge work in bioelectrical fields (see Michael Levin's lab) looks quite promising, although quite a long way off in terms of human applications. They can do all sorts of seemingly miraculous things in planaria.
Re:Fish eyes grown in a petri dish from embryonic stem cells
by dukeofdoom on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:35PM
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How long before we get to have third eyes. Red dots are so inferior. I just find it amazing that this was visioned centuries ago by some drunk medieval monk, depicting demons in his sketchbook with a quill pen.
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratoconus#Signs_and_symptoms [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_phenomenon
Ability to grow any organ from stem cells, let alone as complex as an eye, is breathtaking development that up until now was basically Sci-Fi.
I don't have a lot of knowledge in the field, but I believe that once we learn how to grow one organ there isn't a lot than more hard work to learn how to grow other organs.
A woman has the baby, and the umbilical stem cells are collected, and put in a deep freeze. Instead of circumsision, that doctor would be more concerned about saving the stem cells?
Who knows what medical breakthroughs will come?
(I don't know much about stem cells, other than the political stuff associated woth them.)
From what I understand, though, stem cells don't last longer than a few years in storage. Making private banks a less useful.
(Or just farm fertilized eggs)
Edit: I forgot to mention but newer techniques for corneal transplant are within reach, and current techniques in the right hands are very successful at giving usable vision.
Best of luck!
It would be quite an achievement though, because axons navigate their way by a gradients of some chemicals, which probably dissipate with age.
And problems will not end when nerves have grown. Brains would need to learn how to use them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjD1aLm4Thg
https://www.google.com/search?q=medieval+demons&hl=en&tbm=is...