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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by DanBC on Saturday September 04, 2021 @03:54AM (#28413054)
> I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK

No, there hasn't. You've been lied to.

There was no treatment for trans children (in the UK). Then a clinic opened up. We went from zero trans boys to some trans boys.

Anti trans campaigners misuse percentages to show an "alarming" rise, when in fact we've simply gone from "none" to "some".

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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by makomk on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:44AM (#28413292)
I'm pretty sure this is the exact opposite of reality though - there have been clinics for trans children in the UK for decades, and one of the main things affecting the availability of treatment is that the number of cases referred to them skyrocketed recently.
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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by golergka on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:11AM (#28413132)
That's exactly what the parent comment said, though, isn't it? Increase from none to some is indeed massive.
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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by DanBC on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:16AM (#28413160)
No, the parent said that the numbers of trans people have increased. That's not true. The numbers of trans people able to get treatment is the thing that increased. We went from not counting, to counting. So we didn't increase the number of trans people, we just started counting the trans people that always existed.
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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by jhgb on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:00AM (#28413366)
He said "cases", though, not "people". I'm not sure if you can say that you have a case without treatment or diagnosis.
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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by pseudalopex on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:30AM (#28413528)
They said "increase in transgender kids".
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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by jhgb on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:34AM (#28413541)
I'm pretty sure that it's clear that he meant diagnosed cases. Otherwise the text doesn't make sense. You don't ask "Could the reason for more people with X be more people with X?".
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