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Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by heavyset_go on Friday September 03, 2021 @07:00PM (#28410389)
Christopher Rufo defines critical race theory as everything he doesn't like, so of course he'd see phantom CRTs lurking behind every shadow and around every corner.

From here[1]:

> Christopher Rufo, a prominent opponent of critical race theory, in March acknowledged intentionally using the term to describe a range of race-related topics and conjure a negative association.

> “We have successfully frozen their brand — ‘critical race theory’ — into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions,” wrote Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. “We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category. The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think ‘critical race theory.’”

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/29/critical...

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by miles on Friday September 03, 2021 @07:24PM (#28410551)
> of course he'd see phantom CRTs lurking behind every shadow

When it comes to teaching children Not My Idea, definitely seems to be more to the concern than just shadows:

The fallacy of ‘whiteness’ https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/08/opinion/fallacy-white...

> According to recent reports, public and private elementary schools across the United States have used, as part of racial equity education, an illustrated children’s book called “Not My Idea,” in which a devil with a pointy tail offers the young reader a “contract binding you to whiteness.” The contract promises “stolen land,” “stolen riches,” and “special favors”; in exchange, whiteness gets “your soul” and power over “the lives of your friends, neighbors, loved ones, and all fellow humans of COLOR.”

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by kgarten on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:57PM (#28411134)
CRT is something taught in law school, not in elementary schools. You have an indoctrination problem in the US but it definitely does not come from CRT.

I looked at some of the illustrations of "Not My Idea"... it's a bit wired and cringe worthy sometimes. Still compare that to the indoctrination that is in some of the schoolbooks:

Slavery was just "black immigration" https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/12/right-wing...

The kkk was not morally wrong ... ?? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-senate-...

Banning of Black and Latino Authors https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylvania/mc-nws-pa-banned-boo...

Teaching creationism: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/apr/08/house-advanc...

Are you as outraged about that as you are about a fringe law theory?

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by kgarten on Saturday September 04, 2021 @09:57AM (#28415138)
Downvotes, but no counter?

Can you name numbers comparing how many books with problematic woke content are used versus the books mentioned from the guardian?

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by soundnote on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:01PM (#28438067)
> Christopher Rufo defines critical race theory as everything he doesn't like

Not quite. Rufo knows what CRT is, and importantly, what shares the same problems CRT does. That is to say, different branches of the same general ideology that operate on different topics. The CRT model is kinda like ideological lego, you can just plug in a topic). The demon is legion and has many names. Rufo's stuff is mostly about calling woke thought in general CRT, since the name stuck. I haven't yet seen Rufo label things that aren't wokeness or influenced by wokeness CRT.

It's the same kind of thing as when we call Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and all the Protestant sects "Christianity" even though they are not the same, or how we still call Zen "Buddhism" even though it lacks the supernatural component of its older cousins. None of those things is the same, but they share a family resemblance, they have a character to them that makes them unique among the sea of ideologies, religions and philosophies. Rufo's nailing "CRT" to that family resemblance, because the family is there, the demon is real, and it needs a name to be talked about usefully, not a legion of them.

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by CamperBob2 on Friday September 03, 2021 @07:30PM (#28410592)
Is he actually wrong? Seems like it should be possible to judge the citations he's posted independently of his own (admittedly obvious) biases.
Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by kgarten on Friday September 03, 2021 @09:06PM (#28411174)
It seems he is. I see a much bigger push to prevent any type of critical discussion about issues of slavery etc.

I'm also always surprised how little US citizens know about their own history. Ask somebody about "Birth of a Nation" and see what they can tell you about it.

Ask them if they know about the "Pro American Rally" in 1939 and see what they say.

These things are not taught in school and it's a shame. I know what I'm talking about I'm German and I hated our history education in school as we were discussing the 3rd Reich nearly every year. Yet, reflecting on it and seeing that the same stupid ideas get a hold today again, it was not nearly enough. We should have taught more. The same holds for the German colonial history (that was not covered and is changing slowly).

If you don't know your past, you are condemned to repeat it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/150-years-lat...

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/12/right-wing...

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by josephg on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:57PM (#28411139)
Critical race theory is a mythic story - the sort Yural Harari describes as a religion. It sits alongside replacement theory, humanism, environmentalism, crypto anarchism, liberalism, rand’s objectivism, and so on.

These stories are lenses through which you can describe the world. They’re like software for the mind. And like software, they aren’t objectively right or objectively wrong. Each of these stories (dubiously) explain and obsesses over some aspects of the world, and ignores other aspects completely.

Re:Apple Delays Rollout of Child Safety Features by dragonwriter on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:16AM (#28413161)
> Critical race theory is a mythic story -

No, its not.

Though there is a mythic anti-”Critical Race Theory” story created by the American Right, and the thing within it called “Critical Race Theory” is a (particularly incoherent, because a number of unrelated and opposing things from the real world that share only that they concern race, and they are disliked by the American Right, and they are not actually Critical Race Theory, are jammed into it) mythic story.

> These stories are lenses through which you can describe the world. They’re like software for the mind. And like software, they aren’t objectively right or objectively wrong.

Actual critical race theory (like critical legal studies, from which it stems) holds the existence of objective features of social structures, with tangible, material, effects.

Like many hypothesized social phenomenon, the complexity of the systems involved may make falsification difficult on a practical level, but the claims it makes are fact claims which are objectively true or false.