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Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by neogodless on Friday September 03, 2021 @12:47PM (#28406530)
Sort of? I've been building PCs for about 20 years, and when doing it for others, I'd have them buy a license. For myself, the only time I can recall buying a Windows license was for Windows Home Server and WHS 2011. I got a free Windows 7 Ultimate license, which I have now upgraded through 8/8.1 to 10 Pro.

But yes, a mainstream Windows user pays for a Windows license, either through a direct license purchase, or through the baked in price of a machine.

Most users did not pay to upgrade machines from 7/8/8.1 to 10, but that was a bargain with the devil, as it made it easier on the decision-makers at Microsoft to find other ways to make money off of Windows 10 users.

Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by sharken on Friday September 03, 2021 @05:22PM (#28409569)
Part of setting up a Win 10 machine should include disabling telemetry, even though it's not easy.

https://winaero.com/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collec...

It probably won't be long before the Windows 11 version is here.

Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by thaumasiotes on Friday September 03, 2021 @06:16PM (#28410027)
> Most users did not pay to upgrade machines from 7/8/8.1 to 10, but that was a bargain with the devil

Bargain with the devil? Most users didn't pay to upgrade machines from 7/8 to 10 because they had nothing to gain from the upgrade. You only bargain to get things that you want.

Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by reissbaker on Friday September 03, 2021 @09:11PM (#28411201)
Er, no, they didn't pay because Microsoft offered the upgrade for free. They did upgrade, they just didn't pay to do so. Hence "a bargain with the devil."
Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by thaumasiotes on Friday September 03, 2021 @10:12PM (#28411469)
And I'm saying that, if the upgrade had cost money, they wouldn't have done it.

Look at the number of people who upgraded from 7 to 8.

Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by neogodless on Saturday September 04, 2021 @10:05AM (#28415200)
Most people want the new and shiny even if a select few prefer the stable, safe choice. Mainstream preferences overwhelm the tech savvy. Already I see forum threads on Slickdeals where people are talking about how important it is for any computer you buy to be Windows 11 ready...
Re:Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? by drcongo on Friday September 03, 2021 @01:01PM (#28406696)
What a horror story, thanks for the comprehensive answer.