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Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by snarf21 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @02:46PM (#28395799)
AI isn't a stand-alone panacea for this. We've done lost of studies with other radiologists. Taking the union of two "bad" radiologists outperforms a single "good" radiologist. Humans aren't machines, we have bad days. I think the long term benefit of this kind of AI is as an audit AFTER the radiologist has done their assessment. If there is a mismatch, it should trigger a follow-up with a different a radiologist (without telling them the result of the 1st or the AI) to build consensus.
Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by ajmurmann on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:22PM (#28396216)
This! I wish we did this type of usage a lot more in a variety of areas. I previously proposed this at a job to enhance filtering out of false-positive security scan results. I think it doesn't get used because it would increase the immediate cost, not reduce it.
Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by tsjq on Friday September 03, 2021 @01:32AM (#28400727)
>I think it doesn't get used because it would increase the immediate cost, not reduce it.

indeed that is the problem in many areas. Almost always mgmt looks with "tech = fewer human = instant cost savings" expectations.

and anything that increases cost in the short term are shot down. sad . all blame on the cost-center vs profit-center mindset.

Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by YossarianFrPrez on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:41PM (#28396440)
I completely agree. In fact, one wonders if the biggest use of AI/ML in medicine will actually be in medical notes and record keeping -- voice transcriptions, medical scribing, and interpreting writing, free-form text into standard diagnostic categories.
Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by Aspos on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:36PM (#28396381)
AI which is slightly less effective than a well-educated, well-trained, expensive radiologist is better than nothing. There are places in this world which could afford a $XXK x-ray machine, but don't have access to a good radiologist.
Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by divbzero on Thursday September 02, 2021 @07:08PM (#28398483)
Agreed! It’s easy to get sucked into the (intriguing) human vs. machine question and forget that the best solution is often both or some orthogonal improvement.
Re:Use of artificial intelligence for image analysis in brea... by spockz on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:30PM (#28396304)
I think getting a second “opinion” is pretty standard for biopsies?