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Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:13AM (#28392255)
> What consequences should there be for exercising the right to free speech?

None. For organizing a violent insurrection? Several.

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by mc32 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:19AM (#28392346)
If there were people who organized a violent movement to overthrow the government, they should be prosecuted. Just like organizers who organized the burning of police stations should be investigated and prosecuted. However, I don't think we should prosecute people for having attended an event that got co-opted and where they had no intent on participating in an insurrection or burning police stations.
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by kyuudou on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:32AM (#28392549)
What if the FBI had a large part in organizing such a movement? Should they be prosecuted too?
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by mc32 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:35AM (#28392595)
You know, the FBI has a long history of provocation. Yes, they should be prosecuted. Often times they enlist people who are very malleable and little education or have mental issues. I think it's a shame this happens and I wish we had an administration with the guts to put an end to this kind of entrapment.
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:21AM (#28392375)
> I don't think we should prosecute people for having attended an event that got co-opted and where they had no intent on participating in an insurrection or burning police stations

Totally agreed. Notably, nobody has suggested this. And nobody has, at least so far, been prosecuted for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by CrazyPyroLinux on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:12AM (#28393045)
"wrong place" meaning "inside the capitol at all" but certainly non-violent: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/23/capitol...
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:46AM (#28393532)
“Wrong place” in my comment meant you were at the rally and went along with it. At the point you’re storming a federal building, you should know you’re breaking all manner of laws.
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by slumdev on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:29PM (#28394094)
How can you storm a building when the police are holding the door open for you and ushering you in?
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by slumdev on Thursday September 02, 2021 @01:53PM (#28395187)
And you would use the actions of a few agents provocateurs to smear the rest of the peaceful protestors who were let in by police?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF4EIReuY4

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by krapp on Thursday September 02, 2021 @02:18PM (#28395463)
Your implication that they were "agents provocateurs to smear the rest of the peaceful protestors" is lacking evidence, where there is plenty of evidence, both in testimony and captured communications from various groups of protestors intent on committing violence and mayhem, to the contrary.

At best, those "peaceful" protestors (who somehow in their naive purity managed not to be able to read the vibe of a crowd that erected a noose and gallows outside the White House, or notice the rioting, broken doors and tear gas) are still at least guilty of trespassing, and some of vandalism.

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by slumdev on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:35PM (#28396366)
Trespassing charges would be thrown out immediately if they were ever presented to a jury. The police exercised apparent authority when they ushered the crowd in, giving them permission and the right to enter.

Vandalism would only apply to those who stole or defaced something, certainly not the majority.

And neither of these charges justifies holding a political prisoner for 6+ months without trial, as the US government has done.

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by krapp on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:33PM (#28398212)
>Trespassing charges would be thrown out immediately if they were ever presented to a jury. The police exercised apparent authority when they ushered the crowd in, giving them permission and the right to enter.

I'll let the Justice Department know they can drop all charges because slumdev from the internet has rendered their verdict.

>Vandalism would only apply to those who stole or defaced something, certainly not the majority.

The majority didn't enter the Capitol, and the majority haven't been charged with anything. If your assertion is that people are being arrested and charged with simply being there the actual criminal charges levied prove otherwise[0,1]. People who have been accused of committing actual crimes are being charged for those crimes.

>And neither of these charges justifies holding a political prisoner for 6+ months without trial, as the US government has done.

They aren't political prisoners. They aren't being persecuted for their political beliefs. Most people charged are out on bail, and the ones who aren't are the ones charged with serious crimes.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_brought_in_th...

[1]https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/six-months-january-6th-attac...

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by tomp on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:33AM (#28392564)
It's similar to college rape accusations.

If the accusation is true, then it's a crime and the punishment should be much more severe. If the accusation is false, then it's a non-issue (and clearly not a crime), and there should be no punishment.

Big tech and universities do not have the skills, experience, resources or obligation to resolve the question of guilt clearly and fairly. Let's leave that to the courts.

Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by UncleMeat on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:21PM (#28398111)
That’d be easier to say if the track record on dealing with the police with rape wasn’t so awful.
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by tomp on Friday September 03, 2021 @04:43AM (#28401808)
So your solution is to set up another institution with an awful track record?
Re:Gab.com’s Response to Congress by gruez on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:18AM (#28392330)
Sites were being deplatformed before the "violent insurrection" though.