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Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by long_time_gone on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:39AM (#28391831)
==If Helsinki companies paid like those in Zurich and had similarly low taxes, there would be no problem retaining or importing talent.==

Isn't Switzerland famously difficult to immigrate to?

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by ThePadawan on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:48AM (#28391933)
They'll happily have you as a (non-voting but tax paying) foreign resident. The difficult(-ish) part is becoming a Swiss national.

(I am a Foreign Resident living in Zurich for more than 10 years)

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by wreath on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:56AM (#28392033)
Still better than Germany where you are a high tax paying and non-voting immigrant resident (not even local elections if you are not from EU)
Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by ThePadawan on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:44AM (#28392676)
> (not even local elections if you are not from EU)

That's more progressive than Switzerland (but it varies by canton). No Swiss passport? No vote for you.

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by universa1 on Friday September 03, 2021 @01:27AM (#28400692)
Usually if you have payed taxes for 5 years you can get the German citizenship with all it's benefits, iirc.
Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by wreath on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:18AM (#28520950)
You dont get the German citizenship but you become eligible to apply for one. Thats it.
Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by 908B64B197 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @05:04PM (#28397346)
Not if you are qualified and capable of contributing to society.
Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by panchoop on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:34PM (#28398221)
It strongly depends in nationality, and in this last year they have made rules more strict. If you are European and have good skill-sets, you are welcome. But if you are not European, you have to be special enough such for the company hiring you to be able to justify that there is no-one else in the EU that can do the job you are applying to.

This is not "just in paper". Some weeks ago I got a job offer widrawn from a company in Zürich because of this reason; me being a PhD in Applied Mathematics (granted by the ETH Zürich) but with a non-EU nationality.

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by 908B64B197 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:47PM (#28398329)
They need better lawyers.

Alternatively, have you considered just getting an O-1?

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by panchoop on Friday September 03, 2021 @12:27PM (#28406275)
They told me that they consulted with two "inmigration agencies" (I did not even knew that there existed such a thing), I would guess that they are experts in these issues.

My main weak point of entry is that I was applying to a consulting job in Data Science, and as such, it is not really possible to argue that there is no-one else left in the EU to take the job. Having a degree from the ETH indeed helps, but it wasn't enough.

They have enforced quotas per canton, which means that once filled, no-one else is getting in. Furthermore, Swiss bureacracy is the most strict one I have seen in my life, so there is no much wiggle room to bend the rules.

Re:Mayor suggests Helsinki declare itself an English-languag... by long_time_gone on Friday September 03, 2021 @09:23AM (#28403859)
Either way, we can agree it isn't just based on qualifications and contribution to society as initially claimed.