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Re:California to open five natural gas plants to avoid black... by FredPret on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:04AM (#28391041)
Hydro has significant issues as well. You need a massive flooded area, displacing many people and animals, and you totally disrupt the downstream ecology of the river. (See the Aswan dam)

It also doesn’t produce a ton of power. The Three Gorges Dam is a colossal project, displaced literally millions, cost a frightful amount of money, and produces 1% of China’s power. Also, if that thing ever breaks, many millions will die.

Should have been a couple of small nuclear plants.

Regarding hydro storage, it’s the same exact thing, except now you need two dams, one high and one low. This isn’t a practical solution everywhere, certainly not at a national scale.

Re:California to open five natural gas plants to avoid black... by sasfasaf on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:22AM (#28391196)
" and produces 1% of China’s power."

It produces 1% of the electricity used by CHINA the premier industrial and most populous country in the world and you dismiss it? Three Gorges was a mistake, but it generates power used by 13 million people. That is a ton of power.

Most gas plants are in the 300 MW size, i.e. the 3GD is about 80 of them.

Re:California to open five natural gas plants to avoid black... by FredPret on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:09AM (#28391591)
That China has a lot of consumption is neither here nor there. My point is that they would have to build one hundred of these dams which is clearly totally impractical.
Re:California to open five natural gas plants to avoid black... by sasfasaf on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:17AM (#28391658)
I'm not arguing that 3GD wasn't stupid, just that it generates an insane amount of power.

Either way, no more of them will be built - there are not many more gorges like that left.

Re:California to open five natural gas plants to avoid black... by FredPret on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:30PM (#28394100)
That’s my whole point. We can’t power the planet with hydro, nor should we try.

We need heavy-duty nuclear plants for base load, solar for daytime peaks, and probably some natural gas here and there