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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by _moof on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @02:48PM (#28371946)
This is what intersectionality is supposed to be about: the notion that privilege and discrimination aren't one-dimensional, but are complex products of many intersecting and possibly conflicting experiences, attributes, and contexts. Unfortunately this is a very nuanced idea, and we hate nuanced ideas -- especially about people -- because they require time, energy, rapport-building, context sensitivity, holistic thinking, and the ability to grab hold simultaneously of opposing ideas. (And worst of all for some, they require cutting off a supply of intoxicating self-righteousness.) None of that is going to happen in a one-hour workplace training session. If it's going to happen at all, it's going to unfold gradually over a lifetime. Since timelines of that scale are intolerable, we end up with the sort of ham-fisted oversimplifications you've experienced.
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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by Dracophoenix on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @04:12PM (#28372942)
The issue with intersectionality is the same as the issue with affirmative action: a person is treated as an RPG character where the desired outcome is to "save" the person with the "lowest" stats or compensate for some real or perceived loss in that person's life. In the case of intersectionality, the "winner" is the person who can stack the most "undesirable" traits on his/her bingo card of victimhood (i.e. the victim Olympics) without any consideration given towards his/her personal agency. Intersectionality, both in premise and application, is, in my view, a collection of x-isms of low expectations masquerading as some grand revelation about societal functions.

And I don't think your longterm timeline, even with the nuance and consideration you believe to missing from its application, would bring you to a world where people understand one another's circumstances and integrate these observations into their personal livelihood. Instead what you'll have is a world beset with the reinvention of tribalism and original sin. While intersectionality may have some merit as a sociological observation (even if I though I find its claims to be unfalsifiable), a sociological observation cannot be treated a deterministic inevitability supplanting human agency.

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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by antifa on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @09:04AM (#28379322)
> In the case of intersectionality, the "winner" is the person who can stack the most "undesirable" traits on his/her bingo card of victimhood (i.e. the victim Olympics) without any consideration given towards his/her personal agency

This is a completely insane lie about intersectionality.

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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by Dracophoenix on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @09:57AM (#28379869)
Where is the lie? Please be more specific.
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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by antifa on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:34AM (#28380351)
I quoted it directly.
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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by Dracophoenix on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @11:24AM (#28381021)
Let me rephrase. What makes my statement a lie?
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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by antifa on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @03:58PM (#28384864)
Intersectionality is about marginalized groups working togther and supporting each other. Basically when Caeser says "Apes alone weak. Apes together strong" in Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

The "Oppression Olympics" narrative is an offensive and bizarre strawman.

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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by rnd0 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:51PM (#28388180)
>Intersectionality is about marginalized groups working togther and supporting each other. Basically when Caeser says "Apes alone weak. Apes together strong" in Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

That may be the theory, but "victim olympics" is the actual practice.

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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by antifa on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:37PM (#28399196)
That's a category mistake on your part, if not an obvious lie with malicious intent.
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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by d0100 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @03:00PM (#28372071)
> This is what intersectionality is supposed to be about

Intersect enough and you start dealing with individuals

And no one has time for that

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Re:Mob justice is trampling democratic discourse by CrazyPyroLinux on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @05:45PM (#28374092)
The individual is the most oppressed minority.
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