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Re:White House Launches US Digital Corps by rmason on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @02:33AM (#28364603)
I've worked with state government as a volunteer advisor. They're still developing everything with waterfall. Only contracting out to big firms, even if it's a small project. Lawmakers and aides sit in a room and write down what is to be done.

That's changing at the federal level. They know they've got a problem. Why shouldn't federal software be as easy to use as the best web software? If you've ever tried to use it you will quickly learn that isn't the case.

Some sites will only work with IE and no other browser. Developers in two years can make a huge difference for making the government be more agile and operate better.

I always suggest joining a local Code For America brigade. Work on a local project and see if it is for you. If you find yourself drawn to it then consider applying for a two year stint with the federal government. You can really make a difference!

Re:White House Launches US Digital Corps by throwaway210222 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @03:31AM (#28364903)
> They're still developing everything with waterfall.

In my bitter experience, as soon as the customer's procurement department insists on paying in dribs and drabs (milestones) the project is locked into the waterfall methodology.

Re:White House Launches US Digital Corps by thekingofravens on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @03:27AM (#28364888)
I never even heard of code for America until I read this comment.
Re:White House Launches US Digital Corps by rmason on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @03:46AM (#28364987)
I'm a member of the Lansing brigade which for some reason isn't on the map. Though to be fair we're only meeting online right now.

https://brigade.codeforamerica.org/?_ga=2.123875274.19435526...

Re:White House Launches US Digital Corps by westurner on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @03:32AM (#28364910)
> I've worked with state government as a volunteer advisor. They're still developing everything with waterfall. Only contracting out to big firms, even if it's a small project. Lawmakers and aides sit in a room and write down what is to be done.

The US Digital Services Playbook likely needs few modifications for use at state and local levels? https://github.com/usds/playbook#readme

"PLAY 1: Understand what people need" https://playbook.cio.gov/#play1

"PLAY 4: Build the service using agile and iterative practices" https://playbook.cio.gov/#play4

Do [lawmakers and aides] make good "Product Owners", stakeholders, [incentivized, gamified] app feedback capability utilizers? GitLab has Service Desk: you can email into the service desk email without having an account as necessary to create and follow up on [software] issues in GitHub/BitBucket/GitLab/Gitea project management sytems.

> That's changing at the federal level. They know they've got a problem. Why shouldn't federal software be as easy to use as the best web software? If you've ever tried to use it you will quickly learn that isn't the case.

"PLAY 3: Make it simple and intuitive" https://playbook.cio.gov/#play3

> Some sites will only work with IE and no other browser. Developers in two years can make a huge difference for making the government be more agile and operate better.

US Web Design Standards https://designsystem.digital.gov/

From https://github.com/uswds/uswds#browser-support :

>> We’ve designed the design system to support older and newer browsers through progressive enhancement. The current major version of the design system (2.0) follows the 2% rule: we officially support any browser above 2% usage as observed by analytics.usa.gov. Currently, this means that the design system version 2.0 supports the newest versions of Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Internet Explorer 11 and up.

> I always suggest joining a local Code For America brigade. Work on a local project and see if it is for you. If you find yourself drawn to it then consider applying for a two year stint with the federal government. You can really make a difference!

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_for_America :

>> [...] described Code for America as "the technology world's equivalent of the Peace Corps or Teach for America". The article goes on to say, "They bring fresh blood to the solution process, deliver agile coding and software development skills, and frequently offer new perspectives on the latest technology—something that is often sorely lacking from municipal government IT programs. This is a win-win for cities that need help and for technologists that want to give back and contribute to lower government costs and the delivery of improved government service."