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Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by dougSF70 on Sunday August 29, 2021 @04:17PM (#28350101)
And it takes an architect to build a bridge that rarely stands...cf. the millennium bridge in london. Designed by architects, fixed by engineers.
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by elzbardico on Sunday August 29, 2021 @04:38PM (#28350249)
You do know that the architects hand off their work to structural engineers on anything more complex than a single pavement building before it gets built, do you?
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by sbisson on Sunday August 29, 2021 @06:45PM (#28351166)
To be fair to the architects of the Millennium Bridge, the structural engineers used a vehicle bridge model, not one for pedestrians.
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by codewiz on Sunday August 29, 2021 @09:57PM (#28352163)
Multiple comments seem to imply the Millenium Bridge has some really egregious design flaw. So I'm curious: what is it?
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by scatters on Monday August 30, 2021 @12:15AM (#28352766)
It has a resonance mode at 2Hz, now successfully damped. Bridge designers know to look out for resonances at those frequencies, because pedestrians tend to identify and accentuate them by walking, especially in large numbers immediately after opening. The resonance mode wasn't identified during design because unusually it is in the horizontal plane - most bridge designs have very slow resonances in that plane (sway) but the millennium bridge is a side mounted suspension bridge, with the pylons alongside the roadway.
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by sphericalgames on Sunday August 29, 2021 @10:42PM (#28352357)
This video explains the problem - it is worth watching the entire video. If you are pressed for time jump to 15:00 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_VPRCtiUg
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by dougSF70 on Friday September 03, 2021 @11:25AM (#28405466)
In 99% of cases yes, but the millennium bridge was a special case.
Re:Train Wheels Are Cones by atarian on Sunday August 29, 2021 @07:52PM (#28351584)
Or a tower that has trouble standing... the millennium tower in San Francisco.