Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by gojomo on Friday August 22, 2008 @04:17AM
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Nice analysis, especially the highlighting of the effective veto power over acquisitions in the protective provisions.
To nitpick, I think Agarwal's wording about the liquidation preference gives the impression the term sheet implements what's called 'fully participating' preference, where even after collecting the preference amount, they also share in the remaining money.
IANAL, but I think the wording actually implies a 'non-participating' preference: series AA can take the preference amount, or convert to common and share pro-ratably with commons, but not both.
To picture the difference: take Agarwal's example of selling 10% for $10K. But then imagine the company is sold for only $110K. With fully-participating preferred, I believe the investor gets their $10K liquidation preference, then also 10% of the remaining money, for a total of $20K. With non-participating, they could take the $10K liquidation preference, but then they would share none of the rest with the common. Instead they will choose to convert to common and get 10% of the total, $11K. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by sachinag on Friday August 22, 2008 @09:53AM
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Ah, dammit. You're right. It is non-participating convertible preferred, as specified by 2(c) of the ARAI. (It's been a really long time since I've seen regular convertible preferred.)
I've fixed that section. (If I were still in banking, I'd call it a "clarification.")
Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by aston on Friday August 22, 2008 @05:01AM
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Definitely should be clarified in the article, though. I had no clue what as converted meant despite some casual research into common terms. I doubt people totally new to term sheets would have a clue about participation based on what's there now.
Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by ALee on Friday August 22, 2008 @01:04AM
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Good simple primer to those just starting out.
If you're getting into the nitty gritty, I suggest checking out the great folks at Venture Hacks, Get Venture, and Startup Company Lawyer. I know that the Venture Hacks guys hang out here from time to time.
Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by rokhayakebe on Friday August 22, 2008 @10:09AM
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We need a startup that simplifies the funding process and turns these documents into a single sheet with no more than 4 paragraph. Seriously this 10 page contracts have to go.
Re:An Analysis of the YC "Open Sourced" Documents In Layman'...
by dshah on Friday August 22, 2008 @01:19PM
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Indeed, that would be great. But just the act of simplifying the docs to a standard set of usable (because they're balanced) documents is a major step forward.
Kudos to the YC team for another innovation that is sorely needed. This should have a great impact well beyond the startups that they fund themselves.
To nitpick, I think Agarwal's wording about the liquidation preference gives the impression the term sheet implements what's called 'fully participating' preference, where even after collecting the preference amount, they also share in the remaining money.
IANAL, but I think the wording actually implies a 'non-participating' preference: series AA can take the preference amount, or convert to common and share pro-ratably with commons, but not both.
To picture the difference: take Agarwal's example of selling 10% for $10K. But then imagine the company is sold for only $110K. With fully-participating preferred, I believe the investor gets their $10K liquidation preference, then also 10% of the remaining money, for a total of $20K. With non-participating, they could take the $10K liquidation preference, but then they would share none of the rest with the common. Instead they will choose to convert to common and get 10% of the total, $11K. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
I've fixed that section. (If I were still in banking, I'd call it a "clarification.")
You get mad karma points.
If you're getting into the nitty gritty, I suggest checking out the great folks at Venture Hacks, Get Venture, and Startup Company Lawyer. I know that the Venture Hacks guys hang out here from time to time.
Kudos to the YC team for another innovation that is sorely needed. This should have a great impact well beyond the startups that they fund themselves.