Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by 908B64B197 on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:24PM
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> SV has more because it attracted them from around the world.
There's also a filter here: To immigrate to the US as a dev you need to be able to secure a job as a dev, and the employer must be willing to sponsor you.
That puts the bar way higher.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by golergka on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:41AM
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Eastern Europe and Israel seem to have a decent proportion.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by dasil003 on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:00AM
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My hypothesis there would be cultural factors drawing out a greater percentage of those with the potential.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by rory on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:59AM
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In eastern europe it's pretty simple. The collapse of the soviet union left a strong education system and also poverty. Learning to program is one of the most straightforward and doable ways to a good income, so lots of people do it.
Israel is probably a knock-on effect of that, since most (jewish) israelis are (or descend from) eastern european migrants.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by golergka on Saturday August 28, 2021 @02:31AM
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> most (jewish) israelis are (or descend from) eastern european
That's a popular, but unfortunate misconception. Majority of Jewish Israelis are Mizrahim that immigrated from middle eastern countries, running from persecution by Muslims.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by rory on Monday August 30, 2021 @08:05AM
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Huh, thanks. Wiki says it's about 50/50, fwiw.
Re:Chinese authorities say overtime '996' policy is illegal
by chbloss on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:00PM
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I hear this often and I realize that there are not enough programmers to meet the demand, however I have seen estimates of at least 500,000 software engineers working for large tech companies in the United States. It seems like that is a large number of people that presumably passed difficult algorithm-based interviews. Are programmers really that rare in this day and age?
In my experience college education has nothing to do with who is really a good programmer. Sure MIT grads are better than average, but that's because they have a reputation to attract the people that are the most interested in it. CS fundamentals definitely make you a better programmer and able to solve harder problems, but it's somewhat orthogonal to the daily grind of keeping a mental model of a large obtuse system in your head while solving hundred arcane micro-hurdles one after another.