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Re:Rent control isn’t working in Sweden by alkonaut on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:04AM (#28315865)
> by wishful thinking

What is the wishful thinking in this case? I see it as a deliberate tradeoff: you accept a black market and massive queues, for the idea of people with any background or income living in the city. You could allocate by lottery or by queue time or by market rates. The last one balances supply and demand, but it doesn't allow a city that has non-rich people living in central locations.

So the question is: do we want to balance supply and demand if the cost is a gentrified city core? And that's the tradeoff.

Re:Rent control isn’t working in Sweden by dionidium on Thursday August 26, 2021 @08:03PM (#28322641)
A much larger problem is the free, efficient movement of people and the matching of those people to opportunity. Proponents of rent control act as though the ability to stay in the old neighborhood for your entire life is an unqualified good, but most of us know from our own lives that it's not. You might want to move for a new job or a new relationship or for school or just because you're curious about living in a new city. Rent control ties you to one apartment while also reducing the supply of new units, which ensures you'll be tied to that one apartment for a long time, whether you like it or not.

It's easy to find examples of people who are thrilled that they were able to stay put, but what about all the people for whom that's a curse?

Re:Rent control isn’t working in Sweden by alkonaut on Friday August 27, 2021 @02:40AM (#28324970)
In the case of Stockholm, you can usually switch one rent-controlled apartment for another, so the mobility is around the same in rent-controlledd as it is in any other part of the housing market. Obviouly changing cities (thereby markets) doesn't work, but in the case of Stockholm other cities would't have the same problem so moving out would not put you at the back of a 10y queue.

Controlled rents isn’t a bad solution to the economic problem of optimal supply or demand. It’s one of several possible compromises on the ideological scale between “housing is a right and not a commodity and a mixed income city is a goal in itself” vs. “housing is a product like any other and optimal markets solves the problem best”.

The reason Stockholm seems very close to the first despite having one of the world’s most liberal market economies elsewhere is because it’s not easy to change. It’s likely to change but it will take a long time. The right wing parties in Sweden (market liberals) have worked around the problem by ensuring the apartments are converted from rentable to condos instead, because removing the rent control entirely would be too difficult. There is also talk about allowing market rents for new production (it’s already allowed in a limited way).