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Re:Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence by DoingIsLearning on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:36AM (#28311411)
> What's "naïve" is you or anyone else thinking they have the power to "nudge people into better patterns" > You can't, and you never will. Culture evolves slowly, and humans even slower.

There is ample evidence since at least World War I, that both 'positive' PSA type information and 'negative' propaganda/counter information/psy ops absolutely have an effect.

Reminder that the Wakefield fraud in 1998, on M.M.R. vaccines and autism, started a negative sentiment towards vaccination and is directly attributed to the measles outbreaks (and deaths) across the developed world (Amplified by Oprah's platform). [1]

Reminder that still today many people will claim carrots give you better vision (they are indeed healthy). This was a counter-info operation from the British, claiming they were providing Air Control with carrots, in order to hide the existing of newly invented RADAR technology against German Bombers. [2]

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/

[2] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-wwii-propagand...

Re:Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence by revnode on Sunday August 29, 2021 @10:34AM (#28347023)
The argument isn't that false information doesn't have an effect. It's that your attempts to manipulate people through censorship has the opposite effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Re:Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence by cutemonster on Friday August 27, 2021 @06:36AM (#28326147)
I know about psyops, but what is "PSA type information"? (What is "PSA" for?)

(Agreed btw that most humans are easy to manipulate. How interesting about the carrots, I like to eat, for the eyes partly)

Re:Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence by DoingIsLearning on Friday August 27, 2021 @06:59AM (#28326272)
I made the mistake to assume the acronym PSA was known.

Public Service Announcement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_service_announcement

Re:Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence by cutemonster on Friday August 27, 2021 @12:30PM (#28329784)
Ok thanks :-) (I guess it is in the US)