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Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by babesh on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:44PM (#28310016)
You are a name caller. There are downsides to getting the vaccine. I know people who were down and out with side effects to the vaccine for a week. If this is accurate, then people who had covid are 18x protected vs those vaccinated.

Maybe we should introduce a covid card and only let those with them into restaurants. After all, it is likely that the combination of the reopening and breakthrough caused the spike.

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Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by babesh on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:54AM (#28311492)
I stand by my statement about name calling. The person who has had covid is less likely to spread it to others than someone with just the vaccine.

I see little point in forcing them to take the vaccine much less enforce a vaccine mandate. If you want a mandate it should be natural immunity or vaccine or mask or far better just tests and masks since anyone can still catch and spread it.

You are right about 13x. I just misread that (reading on my iPhone).

I was not concerned with cost so I am not going to bother to address that.

Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by Elinvynia on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:25AM (#28315369)
Name calling is okay, if true. If someone is an anti-vaxxer, not calling them such only supports that extremely harmful movement. Preventing calling them anti-vaxxes is literally censorship, and likely something that you are against.
Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by tomp on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:34AM (#28311395)
Society locked me down for 18 months already without any regard of my individual wellbeing, risk tolerance and the fact that I got natural immunity early.

So why should I care about the well-being of the society?

(I still do, because I’m a good person, but I feel no “social contract” obligation whatsoever.)

Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by throwa668898 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:37PM (#28309966)
The choice is not black-and-white as you insist. Yes public policy pronouncements ("get vaccinated") must be simple and unequivocal, but my personal, informed, personal-biology choices do not need to be so.

Further, governments and big pharma have made huge mistakes or have perpetrated ulterior motives ask through their history. Recent science is no more immune to politicking and groupthink than the hamfisted past.

I'll rationally take my natural immunity as sufficient and not alter my biology further and superfluously with an experimental, non-recourse drug.

Side-effect databases severely systematically underreport mild chronic harm, such as, who knows, a couple points of IQ decline or vascular damage in certain internal organs. No thanks. I'll avoid the untestable hypothesis that the my harm is worth the societal good.

Re:Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced ... by claytongulick on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:55PM (#28310090)
There are many rational reasons for not doing it.

Just because you disagree does not make them irrational, or a person who chooses not to get this vaccine "antivaxxer".

Take a look at CDC VAERS for many rational reasons[1] why people may not want to do this, especially kids.

When choosing to undergo a medical procedure or to take a medication one must always do a risk/reward analysis. This is known as informed consent.

We should encourage this, not name call those who elect to do so.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad...