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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by jrockway on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @11:16AM (#28302706)
Apple could also encrypt every upload to iCloud, and not have any scanning on the client, and still be able to say to the government "sure, you can have the files; we can't read them and neither can you". Apple wants to reduce your privacy from the government above and beyond what the law requires. The questions is: why?
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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by roody15 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @06:43PM (#28308126)
The answer may be related to Pegasus software.

Timeline:

1. Leaked documents show Pegasus software exploits all iphones using an exploit in iMessage 2. Apple releases security update (doesn’t patch imessage. exploit) 3. Apple announces CSAM client scanning coming soon 4. Apple releases another security update (still leaves iMessage exploit unpatched and used by Pegasus)

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Perhaps Apple is under pressure to provide a back door prior to patching a tool that may be widely used by governments around the world.

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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by colejohnson66 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @11:32AM (#28302930)
The simple answer is: password resets. I’m sure majority of people would be very upset if they lost everything by forgetting a password.
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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by nullc on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @01:56PM (#28304666)
Doesn't the apple backup stuff work that way? The data is gone forever if you lose your password?
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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by simondotau on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:16PM (#28309800)
Some, but not all. And if you still have access to a Mac or iOS device which remains associated to this iCloud account, the amount that is lost can be even less.
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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by alisonkisk on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:56AM (#28311501)
Because Apple doesn't want to be a child porn storage service. This is not a secret.
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Re:A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple Neura... by jrockway on Thursday August 26, 2021 @03:31AM (#28311701)
That's not technically possible, though. Most tech companies don't take on impossible tasks, because it will take an infinite amount of money to realize it, and the shareholders will be bankrupt before the product is delivered.

Every piece of data is CSAM encrypted with a one-time pad. It's just that nobody knows the one-time pad.

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