I think a lot is down to how you define success. They had a successful Series A round, but in itself I wouldn't consider that success in itself.

I've seen a few things where I've been told it's from Endgame and I have to say that there's no way that the information contained could've been acquired in any way that could be construed as lawful under UK law (bear in mind that our computer crime laws are garbage, but that's another discussion), although I don't have any financial information.

I see - I saw the pricing sheet from endgame that was leaked, but it was not clear to me if anyone is really buying their services, and I am in the industry (doing not shady things). So I was just curious.