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Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by zarzavat on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:27PM (#28296705)
Don't listen to it, it's bad advice. You should always proof your yeast because most people are not baking every day. People will get yeast out of the cupboard that has been there for a few weeks or months and it will be dead. If you proof your yeast, you will find out immediately and can go to the store to buy some fresh. If you don't proof it then you will find out hours later and waste time and flour. This is especially a problem for active dry yeast which has a relatively short lifespan, but even instant yeast will die eventually.

If you are in a restaurant kitchen or you know your yeast is good because you bought it recently then yes you don't need to proof your yeast.

Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by twothamendment on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @01:20AM (#28298285)
"People will get yeast out of the cupboard..."

Yeah, those are the kind of people who need to proof the yeast. What is it doing in the cupboard?

Proofing can't hurt and is good advise, but at some point you learn you can get away without.

I haven't bothered to proof yeast in a decade. I'm no pro, but we do make all of our pizza, bread, buns, rolls, pretzels, etc.

I buy big compressed blocks and store them in the freezer. When one is opened, some goes in a small jar in the refrigerator and the rest in a large jar in the freezer.

Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by Optimal_Persona on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:34PM (#28296759)
Speaking as a former pro baker (20+ years) this is the correct answer.
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by ivraatiems on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:11PM (#28297006)
I've had yeast stop working after a few months unrefrigerated, but refrigerated it seems to last for years, at least, that's my perception.

I'd only advise somebody to bother to proof if they know the yeast I'm using is older than a few months opened unrefrigerated, but I habitually check it anyway.

Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by zarzavat on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:37PM (#28297468)
Yes if you are an enthusiast and you have experience working with a given yeast, then you can skip the proofing step based on your own judgement.

But if any home cook simply reads "you don't need to proof yeast" and interprets it as another one of those cooking myths like 'sealing' a steak, they are likely to make a catastrophic mistake one day.

Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by geoka9 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @03:07AM (#28298788)
From my understanding, activating active dry yeast also makes it equivalent to fresh yeast - useful when the recipe you're using calls for the latter. Otherwise you'd need to tweak the proof times in the recipe to account for the yeast dormancy.
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by slothtrop on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:53PM (#28296882)
It suffices to freeze the yeast. Lasts a very long time that way.
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by yepthatsreality on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:35PM (#28296774)
Wouldn’t it be better to never proof still and just buy your yeast on-demand?
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by zarzavat on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:56PM (#28297267)
Yep, if you buy the small sealed sachets of instant yeast, and always throw them away after use, and don't store them indefinitely, you will be safe.

Dry active (as opposed to instant) yeast is not shelf stable, if you have to use it, always proof it.

Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by NL807 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @03:54AM (#28299052)
Or keep your own wild yeast starter. We make a lot of sour dough bread, so we maintain our own pet yeast.
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by crocktucker on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:13PM (#28297024)
I suppose, but it sounds a little like: don't bother testing, just use good code.
Re:Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe (2008) by yepthatsreality on Friday August 27, 2021 @12:45AM (#28324391)
Why? Your yeast still gets tested for the purpose so I don’t see how this applies. Especially if the end risk is that you go to the store and buy yeast which has a higher risk of working than stockpiled yeast.