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Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by angryasian on Sunday July 31, 2011 @05:22PM (#2829651)
I made this point again.. as carr did in a recent article. All of you need to stop vilifying these people coming forward. She did nothing wrong except to believe all the hype of how great it is to rent out your living space to a complete strangers. Her only mistake was believing all this hype of disruption without understanding that there are reasons why hotels, and investment properties have certain laws and insurances to protect their businesses. Yes its time that people know and understand the possibilities of what can happen by renting out your personal living space to strangers. Ultimately what happens to Airbnb is up to them, but we need to stop placing and shifting blame on these people for using their service.
Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by tptacek on Sunday July 31, 2011 @05:30PM (#2829674)
You're the one drawing the lines here, not 'cletus. The comment you're responding to goes out of its way to attribute possible fault to Airbnb and is comparatively ginger about what "EJ" (or, far more likely, the legal representation "EJ" has almost certainly acquired by now) may be doing tactically.

I don't have a strong opinion about this story, except that the "red team / blue team" mentality commenters have about this issue is driving me fucking nuts. You don't have to think anything negative about "EJ" to think that we're not getting the whole story from her. All you have to think is, she (very sanely) got a tenacious lawyer.

Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by angryasian on Sunday July 31, 2011 @05:58PM (#2829765)
i don't understand what else to her story really needs to be said, unless it was orchestrated (if thats what you're implying). All that matters is she used the service and her house got trashed. Airbnb never had a safety page until her story and never made people aware of the dangers. People need to be educated of what can happen when you let strangers into your house, when using a service like this.
Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by tptacek on Sunday July 31, 2011 @06:05PM (#2829779)
"Orchestrated"? What? No. The idea that this is all some diabolical plot to bring down Airbnb is silly. It's just as toxic as the worst assumptions being made about Airbnb, just in the opposite direction.

I don't know what "all that matters" means. There are whole huge threads on HN about this that clearly aren't premised on the idea that "all that matters" is that her house got trashed.

Please don't assume that I'm on "team blue" just because I say something that doesn't fit "team red"'s interpretation of events.

Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by delinka on Sunday July 31, 2011 @11:30PM (#2830582)
"People need to be educated..."

This is the kind of thing you learn from your parents. It's not some corporation's job to do that. If I'm renting a room in my house, I'm not leaving this stranger alone in my home. If it's an apartment over the garage with only outside access, I'm less concerned, but I'll still keep my valuables in a safe.

There is a certain amount of common sense one must have to function in this world. Putting "stranger danger" education under the responsibility of AirBnB is unacceptable.

Re:Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth P... by angryasian on Monday August 01, 2011 @09:40PM (#2835326)
thats like saying its not up to the cigarette companies to put a warning on their package of lung cancer, or for every ladder manufacturer to put a warning not to step on the top step, cause you can fall. Yeah its probably common sense, but for liability purposes there's plenty of precedence that its up to the company to educate/warn.