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Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by mrkramer on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:30PM (#28295795)
Phishing is one of the most common entry points of cyberattacks. Even tech savvy people get tricked into clicking links or downloading attachments.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by bogwog on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:38PM (#28295860)
> Even tech savvy people get tricked into clicking links or downloading attachments.

Like Jim Browning, the Youtuber famous for scamming scammers, who recently fell for a phishing scam himself and ended up deleting his Youtube account. (https://news.slashdot.org/story/21/07/28/2023241/youtube-cha...)

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by accidentalrebel on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:01PM (#28296044)
This is eye opening for me.

I am very careful when it comes to phishing scams, but I guess one cannot be 100% vigilant all the time. One slip and you can fall prey.

And this is why having multiple layers of security is important. Even if you get phished, it can prevent further damage.

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by potta_coffee on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:35PM (#28296354)
This is one of those "play with fire long enough, and you'll get burned" situations.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by foerbert on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:26PM (#28297110)
It's not. It wasn't a targeted attack, or any kind of retaliation. The scammer never even saw any of his videos.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by nitrogen on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:57PM (#28296004)
Has that been resolved yet? I'm really curious what advice he gives based on that experience.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by ladberg on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:05PM (#28296085)
The channel is back in full, see the followup video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIWV5fSaUB8
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by dantillberg on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:17PM (#28296184)
> tricked into clicking links or downloading attachments

Is that "phishing"? Those actions should be secure to perform in a browser. The security model of browsers/computers is such that I don't need to establish authenticity/trust in order to click the link or even download something.

Of course, that security model sometimes has holes, but if for example clicking the link enables an XSS attack, I'd call it (primarily) an XSS attack. Same story if downloading an attachment did much more than just creating a file on disk.

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by mrkramer on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @07:41AM (#28300344)
"Phishing is a type of social engineering where an attacker sends a fraudulent ("spoofed") message designed to trick a human victim into revealing sensitive information to the attacker or to deploy malicious software on the victim's infrastructure like ransomware."[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by mrkramer on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @08:02AM (#28300541)
>Is that "phishing"? Those actions should be secure to perform in a browser. The security model of browsers/computers is such that I don't need to establish authenticity/trust in order to click the link or even download something.

You don't understand how hacking and planting of malware works. Hackers abuse zero day vulnerabilities in order to drive by download malware onto user's PC. They use exploit kits in order to manage and plant malware by abusing browser's or computer's zero day exploits. So when you visit a malicious website with vulnerable browser malware silently gets downloaded(drive by download) onto your PC.

On the other hand one of the most common email attachments is Microsoft Word document and again just like with browsers Microsoft Office and Microsoft Word have many zero day exploits or simply existing vulnerabilities(exploits) which user didn't patch so attacker abuses these kinds of exploits in order to drop malware when user opens Microsoft Word document and interacts with it.

Summa summarum: Hackers use zeroday or existing exploits to plant malware or they make lookalike websites or documents to trick you into giving your login credentials and/or payment information(credit card, bank account information etc.)

>The security model of browsers/computers is such that I don't need to establish authenticity/trust in order to click the link or even download something.

You do; websites use SSL certificates and computer files get digitally signed as well.

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by SilverRed on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:23PM (#28296239)
The cross site requests thing has thankfully been fixed. Modern browsers will soon (or already do?) stop sending another sites cookies when making a request from a different domain.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by adrr on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:17PM (#28296181)
Apple makes phishing easier by always prompting the user their apple account password. Do anything including installing free apps and it requires the password.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by SilverRed on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:24PM (#28296254)
This helps the user remember their password. Forgetting your apple id password makes all of your apple devices essentially bricks as you need it to unlink your account or factory reset.
Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by IAmEveryone on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:29PM (#28296287)
It doesn't always prompt for a password or, more accurately, fingerprint scan on newish devices. In fact, standard applications that live in /Applications don't need it.

Nor do free apps downloaded via the App Store, as I just tried. Although this may be a setting somewhere.

But does it matter? You know what doesn't need a password? Accessing your photos. There's really very little you can do after authentication that you can't do otherwise. Maybe, after exfiltrating all the user data, you can also update macOS.

Sandboxing is really far more important than protecting sudo privileges, and I believe Apple is doing a fairly good job in that regard.

Re:Man steals 620k photos from iCloud accounts from home wit... by WatchDog on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:32PM (#28296325)
Getting compromised by "clicking links or downloading attachments", implies some kind of technical vulnerability, beyond phishing alone.