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Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by hellbannedguy on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:31PM (#28294605)
Most were up to a few years ago, but the big players went out of their way to make dependable ice makers--I thought.

The last two refrigerators I bought had dependable ice makers.

I just overheard an installer talking to a neighbor while installing his refrigerator.

The tech said most modern refrigerations only last 10 years at best though.

Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by paranoidrobot on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:31PM (#28297134)
Unofortunately some manufacturers are now implementing DRM to control your use of the ice maker function.

See: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgxpjy/hacker-bypasses-ges-r... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129801

Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by yardie on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:45PM (#28294788)
10 years is actually quite good for major appliances. If you're warrantied for 3 and manage to get 10 years out if it you've exceeded the design parameters. Environmentally, replacing a broken fridge is usually the only time someone will even research something more energy efficient.
Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by jandrese on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:45PM (#28296434)
Meanwhile my Grandmother still uses her fridge from the 60s. It still has the kind of handles where you can get locked inside and almost die if you are on a very special episode of any 80's kid show.
Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by FridayoLeary on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:40PM (#28295873)
I thought fridges should last 15-20 years at least. 3 years is a joke.
Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by hcurtiss on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:37PM (#28296785)
Wow. So the idea is that we want them to wear out more quickly so that they buy a new product that's more energy efficient? That strikes me as terribly wasteful. What about the impacts of a discarded appliance?
Re:Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African w... by curryst on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @05:32PM (#28307326)
The compressor is almost certainly the most expensive part of the fridge. It's also one of 2 moving parts on fridge (the other the being the fan, which is cheap), making it the most likely to fail.

I checked some list prices, and they're a substantial price of the fridge itself. Some site said $200-$450 to replace one, another said the part itself is $100-$500 without even including labor. At those prices, I can see why people might just buy new. It's also something most people would want to hire a professional for; refrigerants are not good to inhale, and this needs to be air-tight.

I would also hope that most of them get refurbished. It's pretty hard to just "discard" a fridge. You have to call someone at the city (or GoodWill), and I presume they sell those to refurbisher. They're worth some money.

So I think in reality, it goes to a refurbisher who fixes it, then sells it to someone else who replaces and even older fridge. So the fridge that actually ends up in a landfill might be a 1960s deep freeze. The same idea as used cars.