Totally, and if I said anything to imply I didn't consider the second topic to be worth discussing then I'd like to correct the record: I do think it's an important (albeit separate) topic.

> How do we have the second conversation without it being shut down as an attempt to shut down the first conversation?

The best answer I can give you is that it's subjective. I'm happy to have a good-faith conversation even (or especially!) with people I disagree with, but dropping "google Chicago shootings" into a drive-by comment isn't what I would consider to be making a good-faith argument.