> ~6.4K people still die every year to chicken pox and shingles

Worldwide? That's a lifetime risk of 1 in 10,000 per person.

https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/vaccine-infographic.html

Before vaccination, chickenpox killed 100 people in USA per year.

So those people aren't worth taking into account and can be written off? The number of Americans with an autoimmune condition is in the single digit millions.

That's not how Cause of Death works. The specific complications of the zoster virus that typically lead to death are pneumonia and encephalitis. In other words, it's typically from inflammation of the lungs or brain. HIV/AIDS, cancer, etc. won't do that on its own. It's specifically from the virus due to a compromised immune system. If an underlying condition compromises the immune system, it's not that condition that killed them, it's the actual disease that happened to be more effective as a result.

For example, if someone dies from the zoster virus due to a compromised immune system from chemotherapy, you wouldn't consider that person died from chemotherapy or from cancer, you'd consider that person died from the virus _due_ to a compromised immune system from chemotherapy.

This discussion is absolutely bonkers. How can one person be so dense and not practice critical thinking? Your arguments don't even work on surface level intuition.

You're right. They wouldn't report your death as suffocation because that'd be a symptom, not the underlying cause. Just because a cause is more fatal because of something else, that doesn't mean that something else killed them.

Using your own analogy, you're arguing that the speed of the car killed them because it made the accident more effective in killing them.

Using your logic, it could be an indefinite number of causes. If someone died of encephalitis from zoster, you could say that their brain killed them with as much equivalence as the chemotherapy or cancer. In other words, it could be anything.

If you died tomorrow, someone could say that this comment caused it because it influenced the chain of events that lead to your death. It would be just as absurd.

> Speak for yourself. I would consider them killed by the chemo/cancer.

Thank god you're not the FDA. Otherwise, we wouldn't have any type of medical procedures or medications. There'd be no difference between going to a doctor or your pastor for that brain tumor.

And what triggered the allergic reaction if not the shrimp that you ate? If I have allergy to peanuts and eat in a restaurant and the cook slips some peanut in a food that is tagged "nuts free" and I die, can the family of the diseased press charges to the restaurant?

The answer is yes. A restaurant can be liable for food allergies. Whether a restaurant has legal liability or harm caused by a food allergy depends on whether the restaurant was negligent. Because it's the ingested food that caused it.

Everybody has pre-existing conditions, whether they know it or not, the cause of death is typically reported to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. People with chronic conditions often does due to acute causes, like contracting a virus. We often call this the cause of death.

If you're living with cancer and not terminally ill in hospice and die 2 weeks later after contracting COVID, you likely died of COVID.

They didn't die from cardiac arrest, they died from anoxia of the brain!

Can you prove it?

That's what immunocompromised means. It means that you are at heightened risk from everything.