FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ruffrey on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:06PM (#28277996)

Is $19 per dose expensive? Not knowing anything about pharma costs, it seems about what it'd expect. Especially compared to the economic savings.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by OJFord on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:00PM (#28278806)

I don't really know how to determine a fair price other than letting them compete with Moderna et al.

Traditional flu jabs apparently [0] cost the NHS £5-8 (<$11) per dose; the Astrazeneca Covid-19 vaccine seems in-line with that charging $2-5 non-profit for the duration of the pandemic [1]. But I don't know how comparable that is to Pfizer's given that the latter's different, newer (mRNA) tech AIUI? (Perhaps that's a disservice to the researchers at AZ/Oxford, I don't know.)

[0] - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/17/nhs-attempts-sav...

[1] - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/covid-19-vacci...

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by albatross13 on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:12PM (#28278103)

I think it is, when you read Pfizer's contract and fact0r in things like "Governments have to pay, regardless of whether or not the shipment arrives: on time, damaged, or at all". I suggest you browse their leaked contract: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20616251-albanian-pf...

Pfizer has also been strong arming small, Latin American countries, to the tune of trying to get military assets as "collateral" (https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/company-news/...)

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by nitrogen on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:42PM (#28278550)

regardless of whether or not the shipment arrives: on time, damaged, or at all

Weren't extremely generous provisions like that offered by the US government last year in order to jumpstart vaccine development and production ASAP?

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by parineum on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:57PM (#28278763)

Yes, that's operation warp speed and it worked great. That's the reason the US.had vaccine enough to go around while Canada was struggling to get everyone their first dose.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by giarc on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:51PM (#28278693)

>Governments have to pay, regardless of whether or not the shipment arrives: on time, damaged, or at all

Wouldn't this be standard language in any contract? If I buy a widget and they ship it to me, if it gets damaged in transit, or lost in transit I still have to pay the producer, I then go after the delivery company (and/or their insurance) for compensation.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by OJFord on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:06PM (#28278888)

I've never handled such things for a business, but I'd assume it'd be the same as in my personal life - that's the seller's problem?

If something arrives (late, if I care) damaged, or not at all, from Amazon or whatever, I tell them and they refund me or ship a replacement.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by 55555 on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:52PM (#28279515)

It depends. Sometimes you buy EXW, sometimes FOB, sometimes delivery is guaranteed. Just depends on the deal. But mostly, yes, you're right.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by alostpuppy on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:09PM (#28278048)

Wow, I agree. That seems like a deal given all the special extra cold handling you have to do with it.

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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by OJFord on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:45PM (#28278596)

That's not $19 administered, that's $19 to acquire it and the privilege of having 'all the special extra cold handling' to do.

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