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Re:SWE interviews should be paid by throwaway13337 on Sunday August 22, 2021 @12:59PM (#28267190)
It sounds like if that's the model, you're externalizing your costs to those unfortunate 500 people's time.

That's pretty unethical. Maybe don't waste so many people's time if you're very unlikely to hire them?

Those I interview, I ask to complete a small task that I pay for. It's the only way I can do it and feel okay about rejecting them if I choose to.

It feels pretty bad to work on something, get rejected, and have no compensation for your time and effort.

Re:SWE interviews should be paid by jcims on Sunday August 22, 2021 @01:06PM (#28267286)
In this situation, the hypothetical 500 were on the short list from tens of thousands of applications and some intermediate number of first round interviews. This was the 'short list' and we could have likely hired any one of them successfully.

We didn't do the 'hand them a project for a day' btw, we met them in person and had them go through a half day of panel interviews. Still something that ideally they would have been compensated for beyond food and our gratitude.

I'm on the side of paying candidates that go through any substantial interview effort, I just think that the regulatory details are going to select for folks that are less privacy-focused and are already established in the domestic economic infrastructure. I used to work in a bug bounty program where we paid out to researchers all over the world and the logistics of it was a pretty major issue (and resulted in a non-negligible portion of the submitters forfeiting their payment).

Re:SWE interviews should be paid by throwaway13337 on Sunday August 22, 2021 @01:14PM (#28267373)
It's an extremely common practice so I don't mean to specifically go after you about it. I'm sorry if it came off that way.

I just really don't like it. I see it as exploiting people in a vulnerable position.

You're right that there are varying degrees. Certainly the worst - for me personally - was King Games in Sweden asking me to spend a week on making a candy crush clone after a short phone interview. I was in a position to refuse but I cannot imagine how many peoples' weeks they wasted.

Re:SWE interviews should be paid by ummonk on Sunday August 22, 2021 @01:15PM (#28267378)
You bring up good points about privacy and regulatory difficulties.

I just don’t know why you focused on the monetary total earlier. You’re already spending thousands of man hours of your own engineers’ time to interview them - the gift card cost is not that consequential in comparison.

Re:SWE interviews should be paid by jcims on Sunday August 22, 2021 @02:11PM (#28267941)
I wasn't clear, it's not the money. The gift card suggestion was basically a way to pay 'under the table', which doesn't scale.
Re:SWE interviews should be paid by ummonk on Sunday August 22, 2021 @03:22PM (#28268606)
Ah that makes sense!