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Re:Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles wi... by kortilla on Sunday August 22, 2021 @08:40AM (#28264988)
> Different countries. Different decades. Different people run it in different ways. The kids are different. In some cases, the kids are already so active that the extra activity is detrimental. In some places, it's really hot. Kids tend to read, or do more organized indoor activities.

Elucidating confounding variables and controlling for them is the entire fucking job of a scientist.

To your example, if they publish a paper that explicitly highlights that it worked well for sedentary kids with typical diets of X, Y, and Z in region Q, then it failing to be a found in other environments isn’t a problem.

It’s a problem when these clowns do a test on one specific group of 20 people and then generalize to, “doing X leads to Y in humans”.

The answer is absolutely not loosening up the constraints. It’s to keep lambasting people who generalize before anything has been reproduced widely.

Popper’s science is fine. Morons who don’t realize what they measured are the problem.

Re:Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles wi... by sokoloff on Sunday August 22, 2021 @08:45AM (#28265029)
I suspect it’s the journalism step that introduces the error you’re objecting to. Proper scientists* will report their findings and methods. Journalists will tend to write the “Doing X leads to Y in humans” headlines.

Many times the first or first few teams won’t know what the confounding variables are and subsequent research is needed to find them. They should still report their initial “hmm, that’s novel” findings even if it later turns out that it’s explained by confounding variables.

*-No true Scotsman

Re:Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles wi... by dalbasal on Sunday August 22, 2021 @09:25AM (#28265278)
>> Elucidating confounding variables and controlling for them is the entire fucking job of a scientist.

No. This is methodology. The job of a scientist is to advance scientific knowledge. This is as vague as it needs to be.

Popper didn't do science. He did philosophy. He also did a fine job of formalising methods, and abstracting the methods scientists were using into a Scientific Method. This scientific method is a great achievement and a wonderful, multipurpose probe. That does not mean it fits in all orifices. The job of a scientist is not to continue hammering until the probe fits.

Re:Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles wi... by keutoi on Sunday August 22, 2021 @10:45AM (#28265878)
How do you advance scientific knowledge without using a Scientific Method?
Re:Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles wi... by dalbasal on Sunday August 22, 2021 @10:58AM (#28265986)
I suppose any method used to advance scientific knowledge without is a scientific method, by definition. That's besides the point though.