I (mid 30s) think Picard actually works -- but only with the first season taken as a unit and including the finale. The entire season basically needs to be thought of as a single long movie. I don't want to spoil anything, but to me, the way the big threat was resolved perfectly captures that idealism that is synonymous with Star Trek.

Short Treks also felt strong to me. It showed that the people making Discovery can make Star Trek work, if freed from the constraints of having to build a season long plot and appease the right focus groups.

Discovery itself, on the other hand... It can be enjoyable at times, but one needs to forget that it's supposed to be Star Trek.

> I don't want to spoil anything, but to me, the way the big threat was resolved perfectly captures that idealism that is synonymous with Star Trek.

I agree. In my opinion, the season peaked at the two big Picard speeches. Avoiding spoilers I will say they should have not hit the reset button on a significant last-episode event and the series would thereafter be the crew carrying on the in the spirit of that event's significance.

I'm willing to agree, but I'm still pissed off about the Borg subplot (not spoiling much, IIRC even trailers mentioned Borg). It was one of those things that built anticipation and then got completely thrown away.

Yeah, that was lame.

The ship design in Picard didn’t feel trek. Like it was a different franchise. The nostalgia moments were the best but overal I didn’t liked the overal tone and storyline.

Not that there was even much ship design to begin with. The ship Picard travelled aboard felt like a ripoff of the Nebuchadnezzar, the ships in the battle at the end were all the same ship from Discovery.

I think a lot of people were just hungry for a new Trek.

Once the Entrerprise made it's first appearance (ughhhh), people were looking for nostalgia.

Ironically that really turned me off.

I mean, the Enterprise was enough. Even that I was disappointed to see make an appearance (although a wonderful homage to the original ship, it looked great!). Then the Guardian of Forever in S3 complete with a sound clip straight out of TOS? After that, I gave up.

My Trekkie friends (also mid 30s) are into Picard for the nostalgia factor. At least, during our pre-COVID watch parties, the talk before each episode was almost always about which TNG and VOY stars were appearing and in what capacity.

I really like the bits of nostalgia in Lower Decks. Riker is hilarious in it and Frakes seems to have had fun with it.

Wait, that's actually Frakes? It sounds so much like an imitator I just assumed...